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Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time

Started by zon, March 05, 2008, 05:18:40 AM

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gyulasun

Quote from: sanmankl on April 05, 2008, 04:18:05 AM

@Gyula,

Thanks. I'll put in a 4700uF in parallel to the battery. I also found out that I can trim the mA consumption with a 220 ohm pot. Can't do it with the value suggested. Now, current consumption is at 20mA.

Cheers, cp

Hi, 

OK on the 220 Ohm pot, and you may wish to connect some more resistance in series with the pot (starting from some hundred Ohms),  the some hundred kOhm value I suggested is to high for the 1.2V supply voltage I agree, it was better for 9-12V supply voltages.
One more thing: ok on your high value cap in parallel with the battery, and consider what I suggested to Zon on the role and values of C1 and C2 capacitors too.

Cheers,  Gyula

sanmankl

Quote from: gyulasun on April 05, 2008, 04:47:36 AM
Quote from: sanmankl on April 05, 2008, 04:18:05 AM

@Gyula,

Thanks. I'll put in a 4700uF in parallel to the battery. I also found out that I can trim the mA consumption with a 220 ohm pot. Can't do it with the value suggested. Now, current consumption is at 20mA.

Cheers, cp

Hi, 

OK on the 220 Ohm pot, and you may wish to connect some more resistance in series with the pot (starting from some hundred Ohms),  the some hundred kOhm value I suggested is to high for the 1.2V supply voltage I agree, it was better for 9-12V supply voltages.
One more thing: ok on your high value cap in parallel with the battery, and consider what I suggested to Zon on the role and values of C1 and C2 capacitors too.

Cheers,  Gyula

Hi,

I'm using a 1V2 battery. After some tuning with various caps, the circuit draw is not at 15mA. The LED is not as bright as before but it is still visible in daylight. I'll leave this circuit running until the LED is not lit anymore and I'll report the run time.

Thanks for the pointers.

cp

turbo

Quote from: amigo on April 03, 2008, 10:16:54 PM

Hi Marco,

See I did not know that about AV plug and the capacitor pushing against the charge, thus
we need to discharge the capacitor often as well, something similar to what Bedini did in his
chargers with capacitor and 555 timer triggering an opto-coupled transistor and SCR?


Hi
Yes we really need to move the charge elswhere so the cap can store it all in stead of just
the part that is above the level that the cap is charged to.
Note that when we look at A battery things are diffrent.
If we charge a 12 volt NICD battery with a voltage of let's say 11 volt, the battery will
not recharge above 11 volts.
If we try to charge a empty battery it just does not charge when the voltage is below the
nominal voltage rating of the cell.
So here we can see a diffrent thing compared to the capacitor.
We can hit a rechagable battery wit many, many high voltage pulses from the avramenko's
plug.
The battery slowly charges and the voltage will not push against the plug like the capacitor.
As soon as the high voltage pulse is gone, the voltage of the battery drops so it is quite
diffrent compared to the capacitor.
I have done both, first store the avramenko's pulse into a cap and then discharge the cap
into a rechargable battery.
This is also why in solar panels a charge controller is needed.
When the sun goes behind the clouds, the boltage of the solar panels drop, resulting in the
fact that the voltage is too low to charge the battery.
Therfore the voltage needs to be stepped up so it is always above the voltage of the
storing cells.
The goal is to keep the voltage high enough so the batterys charge even when there is not
much light.

Quote from: amigo on April 03, 2008, 10:16:54 PM

I see you mention avalanche and I've seen elsewhere mention of avalanche diodes, would
using those help instead of normal ones since they appear could conduct high voltage away to
wherever we want it to go?


Well i was pointing out to the effect so not really component based.
Voltage acts as stress on semiconductors and metals.
The effect depends on how fast an object is hit by electrons,so it releases more electrons.
In vacuum tubes this is called secondary emmission and it's like a chain reaction.

Quote from: amigo on April 03, 2008, 10:16:54 PM

Do you know if there's anything written up on the Web about those analog networks and how
to replicate them and the effects they create? I'm looking for an alternative source of
effects that Tesla coils create, without the use of the Tesla coils and those networks
seemed like a good start...this is for a totally different application though, not free
energy, but alternative medicine.

Soooo, how do we coerce you to write up a book on your experiences and findings? :D

Thanks again.

I know that dave from ctg-labs aswell as jl naudin have replicated these experiments.
Borderland sciences sells books written by Dollard and others.
I have done some experimanting myself in this area and i was certain the frequency was key in which kind of load the circuit powerd.
I had attached diffrent kinds of loads and to my surprise by moving the frequency up and down i was able to power the loads seperatly from each other while they were on the same line.
It was a good example as to see which path the electrons choose at what frequency.
It's not always the way with the lowest resistance...
As for the book, maybe one day, but now im just busy with sport and work.

Marco

NerzhDishual


Hi builders and circuits designers,

Sorry for disturbing, but:
An average 'bright' white LED is given for about 3 Volts and 20 ma. Right?
With one of the simple circuit proposed here (with a bifilar coil and a 470 microF cap),
I got about 1.2 volts (NimH) and 25 ma. My LED was not 'glowing' but 'firmly' bright
(according to my old eyes  :)).

This must not be 'OU' but is, obviously, more efficient than what is 'officially' advised.
(1.2*25 < 3 * 20) . Actually it is a 'Joule Thief'.

BTW: please do not 'hot-plug' your LED when the 470microF cap is filled  :P!

I also tried one of the 3filar coil circuit proposed here. I got the same results (light-wise)
but with an amp consumption of about 50/60 ma. So, what is the advantage of a tri-filar coil?
Are, any of you,suggesting that the (single) bat could also be refilled while working? Why not?

Another question please : What does "Long Long time" mean?
Anyway, thanks a lot for sharing all these creative circuits.

Best
Nolite mittere margaritas ante porcos.

zon

@gyula

My friend's email to me (sample DC Pump Energy, Maybe from JLN Labs).  Concept only.
I want combining with our "LED" design.
Could u help me and share to us

zon