Kicks explained

[poynt99]

the speed of sound through copper is 3800 m/s. what speed are you referring to with electrons and 50000 km/s?

[aleks]

the speed of sound through copper is 3800 m/s. what speed are you referring to with electrons and 50000 km/s?

Atomic lattice phonons travel at 3800m/s, that's why any phonon non-equilibrium is dissolved slowly. Electrons in potential field travel much faster - well, maybe slower than 50000km/s, but should be close to that number.

Also, are you aware that modern science accepts existence of Copper pairs meaning two electrons that travel at equal velocity bounce phonons between each other? This is how superconductivity is described on micro level. Well, this is a stupid explanation because phonons should lead to repelling (due to excessive pressure between bodies), but what if in Copper pairs a local gravity is created that sticks electrons together?

[z_p_e]

sorry..change my mind

[poynt99]

are you sure cooper pairs would only have repulsion between them? why couldn't they alternate between attraction and repulsion due to high and low pressure changes?

double-check your electron speed through copper, it's many magnitudes slower

[aleks]

are you sure cooper pairs would only have repulsion between them? why couldn't they alternate between attraction and repulsion due to high and low pressure changes?

They'll alternate only if they form a system in the first place (like an atomic lattice). And it is exactly where existence of 'gravity' is necessary in the equation. Generally, electron's electrostatic field repels other electrons.

double-check your electron speed through copper, it's many magnitudes slower

So, you really think electrons move at a speed of 0.00024 m/sec in copper (for about 1.5A, 0.5mm2)? Unfortunately, this is a deduction from a model, there is no real measured electron speeds in copper available to my knowledge.

In either case, if electron speeds are unsatisfactory to you, it is absolutely possible to change them to EM waves. There is a known effect exists called 'pressure of light', which means that EM waves can excitate phonons. This is even more important as theory exists for such interaction. The pressure scales as the fourth power of solid's temperature which interacts with EM waves. This may be in concordance with Otto's circuit's observed behavior that his circuit starts to 'kick' when MOSFET heaters achieve a certain temperature.