Kicks explained

[Grumpy]

Hmm - there is that same reference to 250,000 in this patent as the Gary V's account of Tesla's discovery of magnification and RE.

Perhaps there is a connection.

[sparks]

erfinder

The patent you reference is exactly what I was talking about when I said Tesla would use a bifilar wound coil as a capacitor.  He series connected the bifilar elements so that a greater potential would exist in adjacent turns of the bifilar winding.    Series not parallel.  I studied this patent at least a month ago when I was researching bifilar windings.  Wikepedia has a picture of Tesla's coil on their page. 
  Parallel bifilar windings will create a magnetic addition of fields which will precede the electron current flow in unengerized coils. 
  @ Grumpy
       
        The magnetic field expanding from energized coils should be alot stronger than any capacitance coupling of the unenergized coils.

     

[poynt99]

Parallel bifilar windings will create a magnetic addition of fields which will precede the electron current flow in unengerized coils. 
 

not criticizing, just asking..where did you get this from?

[sparks]

   Tesla is describing building in capacitance in his coils so they will have a match without the use of external capacitors.  As he describes the coils  construction he says "the energy stored in the coil will now be two-hundred and fifty thousand as great"   STORED
   I don't think we want to store the energy in the kick coil.  Maybe we do. I was thinking more along the lines of dropping a magnetic field in the space between the collector and the kick winding.
  @poynt

      Wikepedia subject bifilar windings at least the part about adding magnetic fields.  The magnetic field would therefore increase in diameter around the coil bifilar turns and get to the unenergized turn before the actual electron migration.

[poynt99]

@poynt

      Wikepedia subject bifilar windings at least the part about adding magnetic fields.  The magnetic field would therefore increase in diameter around the coil bifilar turns and get to the unenergized turn before the actual electron migration.

i think the term they use at wikipedia "multiplied" should read "summed". if this is correct, then two magnetic fields side by side and in phase will simply add. the magnetic field strength is directly related to the current, and in a linear fashion (assuming no saturation).

what speed does magnetic flux travel? if it is the speed of light, then i guess conceivably the field could reach the next winding before the electron flow does.