Complete information on working SM style device.

[Grumpy]

sparks,  I just saw you added the drawing.  Yes you are correct, that's my interpretation as well.

I took the liberty of correcting the diagram so as not to lead people astray:

[Bruce_TPU]

Was FreedomFuel trying to convince everyone to "bury the TPU" because it had "neclear weapon" potential?

Didn't SM say he got a visit from the Atomic Energy Comission?

A goes to B goes to C...

Hello All,
This is correct.  If the unit reached perfect "harmonics" it could take out a city, the man from AEC had said.  SM was threatened with jail, etc. because of the dangers involved.  Remember the "imploding TV's?"

What I think:
I think Spherics was/is SM's engineer.  I think the earliest TPU, was the least dangerous and is why we have now been told how to build it.

I think Spherics and SM have continued to work on the TPU as told by SM, to iron out some of the bugs.  And that Spherics first post is the latest incarnation.

I think that Spherics gave out too much information on the implosion coils, thus it's removal.  It add's credance in my mind to everything he has said, based on what SM has told us about the dangers of the TPU.

I think that the "three Frequencies" needed for the other SM TPU's, were frequencies that tapped into huge magnetic waves and these would have increased the "COMP" field producing more current.  But SM said even if we did not hit the "correct" frequency's" we would see power, but only a little.  The "COMP" field would be much weaker.

I think that Spherics knows about Bob Boyce's device, because I had Mannix send a copy of the .pdf that I composed to SM to look over.  I think that he passed it to Spherics, thus Spherics mention of Bob Boyce.

Lastly I think some of us should build the kick coils and some should build the 2008 version of the TPU as described in Spherics first post.

I think that Spherics used the user name of Spherics because it was the name of SM's former company.

Stop jabbering and let's try to actually build something for once.  Out of twenty replicators of the Bob Boyce device only ONE ever got to the point to actually test it.  If nothing works some can wag their finger and say I told you so.  I don't care. 

Will you, the readers of this post, build and post your experiments or just continue to talk everyone to death?     

@ Spherics

Thank you, very very much, from a grateful soul.

God Bless,

Bruce

[wattsup]

The coil disposition has merit. The bifilar idea as shown, in my opinion is of no use. The current will just bypass through the coil of least resistance. The fact that the coils are connected as shown, nothing will happen. The idea of creating a second squeeze effect will not work as shown. You will actually decrease the field. Sorry.

All the ether talk is simply wishful thinking and does not touch the reality of the apparatus at all. Basically as the toroid produces current, it will create a BEMF (yes I hate that word) onto which the three  bottom coils will rub their fields. The top coil will simply create a constant repulsion zone over the toroid. Nothing more. Nothing less. No need for fancy ether talk because it does not mean anything. You will probably need to send an excitation current into the toroid to start the drag conditions like any standard alternator. You can choose your tires and your rims, but you won't re-invent the wheel on this one.

Also, stating this is a more efficient design then the TPU. Say what? Did I read this correctly. I would hope that to say this, one would have a working spheric unit and a working TPU and have done exact performance comparisons before one would state this in public. More efficient?

Like I said on the outset of this thread, the design is interesting in that it resembles Otto's ECD but with a more logical field development. This is said and based on the ECD "experience" with thanks to Ottos and Robertos hard work. Nothing more.

There remains so many questions concerning the design itself that it is futile to spend time talking about master theories. Main things will be;

- to find the proper toroid/coils winding ratios.
- to develop the proper driving method - non SS if you expect to use the flyback.
- to develop the true angles for the coils because I do not think the perfect triangle design will work since the fields from the coils will be coming out ovular.
- develop a reasoning on if the coils will be driven as primaries or as high inductance and use some Tesla know-how to reduce the overall power consumption.

In my view, the idea of three down, toroid, one up is good. But not three out. I would put the triangle upside down with the three coils around the bottom tip driving the toroid from inside where the drag could be contained with the top coil impulses otherwise you will lose 75% of the field effect. But that's just me. Triangles are good for structure but have no special merit for substance. The components used will decide the substance.

I do not believe any of this has anything to do with the TPU at all and Roberto said it very quickly, this is not a TPU and there is no relation. The descriptions of the TPU operation are faulty and do not "fit". I don't know where spherics got these stories about SM working intermittently on this over years, etc., etc., and I don't buy it.

Now if there was a nice dark roomed video of this device in action, we would all feell at home here.lol

I think I have finally figured out what exactly is happening here in terms of Spherics, his unit, SM, the TPU, etc., but will wait a little longer to see what @spherics says in his next "two" posts. Language has a way of permeating through the years. I think someone better copy this thread now.

[Bruce_TPU]

The coil disposition has merit. The bifilar idea as shown, in my opinion is of no use. The current will just bypass through the coil of least resistance. The fact that the coils are connected as shown, nothing will happen. The idea of creating a second squeeze effect will not work as shown. You will actually decrease the field. Sorry.

All the ether talk is simply wishful thinking and does not touch the reality of the apparatus at all. Basically as the toroid produces current, it will create a BEMF (yes I hate that word) onto which the three  bottom coils will rub their fields. The top coil will simply create a constant repulsion zone over the toroid. Nothing more. Nothing less. No need for fancy ether talk because it does not mean anything. You will probably need to send an excitation current into the toroid to start the drag conditions like any standard alternator. You can choose your tires and your rims, but you won't re-invent the wheel on this one.

Also, stating this is a more efficient design then the TPU. Say what? Did I read this correctly. I would hope that to say this, one would have a working spheric unit and a working TPU and have done exact performance comparisons before one would state this in public. More efficient?

Like I said on the outset of this thread, the design is interesting in that it resembles Otto's ECD but with a more logical field development. This is said and based on the ECD "experience" with thanks to Ottos and Robertos hard work. Nothing more.

There remains so many questions concerning the design itself that it is futile to spend time talking about master theories. Main things will be;

- to find the proper toroid/coils winding ratios.
- to develop the proper driving method - non SS if you expect to use the flyback.
- to develop the true angles for the coils because I do not think the perfect triangle design will work since the fields from the coils will be coming out ovular.
- develop a reasoning on if the coils will be driven as primaries or as high inductance and use some Tesla know-how to reduce the overall power consumption.

In my view, the idea of three down, toroid, one up is good. But not three out. I would put the triangle upside down with the three coils around the bottom tip driving the toroid from inside where the drag could be contained with the top coil impulses otherwise you will lose 75% of the field effect. But that's just me. Triangles are good for structure but have no special merit for substance. The components used will decide the substance.

I do not believe any of this has anything to do with the TPU at all and Roberto said it very quickly, this is not a TPU and there is no relation. The descriptions of the TPU operation are faulty and do not "fit". I don't know where spherics got these stories about SM working intermittently on this over years, etc., etc., and I don't buy it.

Now if there was a nice dark roomed video of this device in action, we would all feell at home here.lol

I think I have finally figured out what exactly is happening here in terms of Spherics, his unit, SM, the TPU, etc., but will wait a little longer to see what @spherics says in his next "two" posts. Language has a way of permeating through the years. I think someone better copy this thread now.

@ Wattsup

The man just told you that if you build it you will see a KICK!!  And your response is, "The bifilar idea as shown, in my opinion is of no use."  HUH?  Either Spherics is a liar, or people just want to ignore information, because it does not fit their preconceptions.  Typical.  More Jabber.

Cheers,

Bruce

[EMdevices]

Every time we feed a square wave into a coil, a "kick" will occur.  It's what we do with the kick that is important.

EM