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Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !

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Bruce_TPU

Quote from: wattsup on August 29, 2009, 11:20:27 AM
@Bruce_TPU

I don't know about all these frequencies. Usually a theory should be consistent throughout all the TPU builds and I just can't see all this happening in the ftpu, otpu, stpu and 6tpu(s) (@BEP yes there are more then one) lol. But what do I know.

350 volts is about the level of a vacuum tube output.

@all

@Bruce_TPU just said "ALL POWER SOURCES from Batteries only."

JUST LEARNED THIS THE HARD WAY.

I just blew my HP 214B Pulse Generator. Found a resistor toasted, ran out to get one 237k but found only a 240k, changed it, but still no go. That is about the limit of my EE acumen to fix it. Shit. I had just finished preparing my next TPU test with just a first ring and outer coil and toroid. Connected it to the pulse generator and boom. It blew. It was preset at around 2mhz when I put it on and boom.

If anyone knows anything about these pulse generators, the resistor is R508 (237k) and you can see it on pages 108 and 112 of my manual located here.
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Equipment%20Manuals/214B%20HP%20Pulse%20Generator/00214-90012.pdf

I don't know if this is just coincidental or not. Man I have pulsed so many wicked things and it never blew or gave me any trouble. Just connected to this and it blew in half a second.

Well I guess I am back to using a Mosfet again and my frequency generator again. Noooooooooooooooo. Hmmmmmm. Wonder if it will blow also or maybe I should just use a battery and magnet quenched reed switch to start really small. I wanted to do these tests before I posted my theory of TPU operation. It is so simple. Maybe I should not wait and just put it out there. The basic simple premise is sound and I have at least confirmed the basic requirement on the bench. The theory may not be 100% but I am sure it will help you guys cross the barrier with your great EE know how.

When I simply pulse it manually on 4.5 vdc (power supply) I can feel the copper ring react even though it is wound over with a control coil (or whatever). Very surprised I must say. Actually not really surprised given the fact that this is expected under the circumstances.

Intermodulation to produce the harmonics, simply requires the three CORRECT frequencies and a piece of wire.  The shape and sizes and power produced by all the different TPU's differ, but the main ingredient of three freqs mixed to produce the intermodulation would be the same.  Also true of the pulsed DC. 

The source (three freqs) produce the feed (intermodulation of said signals), this feed is then rectified, fed back to the outer loop as pulsed DC, which then becomes the output.

1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

innovation_station

ok bruce ... 

i do not argue 1 bit ... but this seams complex .... 


do you think it needs to be ... ?


i can get 3 pulses on 1 coil easly ...  rectify it and send into 1st collector as pulsed dc and cascade the output of that through the others in the stack ... 

and all i used was  a aa battery a rectifier .. and 3 2n2222's .. now im gonna make it work with out a power source but only to power the switch.. ps this means a button cell to turn on and off the main 2n2222 wich will fill the first super cap ...  when you rempove the neo /...

the divice will stop operating as such ..

and the 3 freqs run on the returned power from the neo flux being canceled with macs breaking coil ...  ;) 8)

ist


not saying at all this is the same as some of the SM tpus....  as i think some are quite complex and this is really basic .. and easly done...

To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

slapper

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on August 29, 2009, 09:25:00 AM
(Study INTERMODULATION)
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on August 29, 2009, 09:25:00 AM
(study intermodulation)
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on August 29, 2009, 09:25:00 AM
(study intermodulation).
Are you suggesting that we should study intermodulation?  :)

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermodulation: Passive intermodulation
Quote
As explained in a previous section, intermodulation can only occur in non-linear systems. Non-linear systems are generally composed of active components, meaning that the components must be biased with an external power source which is not the input signal (i.e. the active components must be "turned on"). However, even passive components can perform in a non-linear manner and cause intermodulation. Diodes are widely known for their passive nonlinear effects, but parasitic nonlinearity can arise in other components as well. For example, audio transformers exhibit non-linear behavior near their saturation point, electrolytic capacitors can start to behave as rectifiers under large-signal conditions, and RF connectors and antennas can exhibit non-linear characteristics. Even the air itself can behave in a non-linear fashion, which can be exploited to produce audible sound from intermodulation of ultrasonic frequencies.

Passive intermodulation (PIM) occurs in passive systems (i.e. the input signal is the only source of energy to the system) when the input signal is very high power, and the system consists of junctions of dis-similar metals or junctions of metals and oxides. These junctions effectively form diodes, which are non-linear. The higher the signal amplitude, the more pronounced the effect of the non-linearities, and the more prominent the intermodulation may occur, even though upon initial inspection, the system would appear to be linear and unable to generate intermodulations.

PIM can also occur in connectors, or when conductors made of two galvanically unmatched metals come in contact with each other.

Lots of interesting points here. If you follow the linked text "audible sound from intermodulation of ultrasonic frequencies" to here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_from_ultrasound

So what are the chances that Steven was attempting to achieve some 3d audio using something related to hypersonic sound.

From the wikipedia on intermodulation it seems that nonlinearity is required and I wonder if it is possible to achieve the required nonlinearity with those toroidal chokes whereby the chokes would be the L in an oscillator and also drive the control coils. A magnet place near the core could be used to tune to the appropriate nonlinearity on the BH curve.

Not quite sure where I'm going with this. Just some thoughts thrown into the mix.

Take care.

nap
we are not alone :)

gyulasun

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on August 30, 2009, 10:46:59 AM
Intermodulation to produce the harmonics, simply requires the three CORRECT frequencies and a piece of wire.  The shape and sizes and power produced by all the different TPU's differ, but the main ingredient of three freqs mixed to produce the intermodulation would be the same.  Also true of the pulsed DC. 

The source (three freqs) produce the feed (intermodulation of said signals), this feed is then rectified, fed back to the outer loop as pulsed DC, which then becomes the output.

Hi Bruce,

Normally frequency mixing involves a nonlinearity and I wonder if a (certain) piece of wire is just enough for it?  Can you share some insight here?

Thanks, Gyula

EDIT: just seen Nap asked the same question...

forest