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A truly overunity Transformer / Meg

Started by LoganBaker, March 17, 2008, 06:32:56 PM

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winsonali

nali2001 and nickZ

please read this post gotoluc have developed some lens free generator setup
the video link is here on this thread.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7987.new#new

LarryC

There has been comments on this thread stating that PPMT cannot work as a generator, which does not agree with the statements made in Flynn’s patents WO 2008/119055 and WO 2008/109834 and his two web sites. So I attempted an easy build generator replication based on PPMT technology.


PPMT1-Patent picture:  This is Figure 20 from the WO 2008/119055 patent. It is showing the flux flow of the unit when the unit has three sets of the rotor segments aligned. No power is being applied. If the rotor is turned at this point the reluctance will increase and flux will start falling in the associated cores. In the other sections the reluctance will decrease and flux will start rising in the associated cores.

PPMT1-Shaded pole motor: Fractional HP motor from bathroom vent unit. High rpm, low torque design for a 4.5 inch diameter fan. This motor increases draw wattage with an increase in load. The coil is 20 ohms. The coil section can be pulled loose from the rotor section.   

PPMT1-drawing: Shows a rough drawing of the generator concept which duplicates one section of Figure 20 patent using parts from 2 shaded pole motor. The rotor and center pieces were cut to vary the reluctance. The iron pieces on back of the magnets are used as a flux pathway, to stop any interference with the generator.

PPMT1-generator close up: This shows the assembled generator. Magnets of ½” by ¼” by 1/16” were stacked to fine tune the performance.

PPMT1-side view: This shows another shaded pole ac motor driving the generator. It does not have enough torque to self start. A manual push is required after switching on.

PPMT1-no load on coils: Shows 35 watts draw on the drive motor when both coils are open.

PPMT1-100 ohm load each coil: This shows the wave form coming from each coil with 100 ohm loads. Proves that the flux is rising and falling in each coil and they are not retaining magnetism. Still shows a 35 watt draw on the drive motor and no noticeable speed change, proving little or no lenz effect. This setup has been run up to 10 minutes with only minimum variance in Vrms, amperage or watts draw. 

PPMT1-100 ohm load each coil with ch1 display: The display, middle column, second row shows a Vrms of  3.41V for one coil and the back meter shows the ac amperage of 33.68MA for one coil. Proves it works as a generator.

Of course, the output is not very impressive, but I’m sure that it could be improved with a better rotor. The original rotor is an ac induction rotor, which has aluminum shorting bars thru the rotor. Looking at the rotor from the side that was cut, it seems to be half aluminum. A silicon steel lamination rotor would perform much better. Also, the fit between the coil core and rotor holder is a little gapped due to having to reverse its normal position. I don’t have the equipment to make a rotor with the required tolerances.

As a comparison to the PPMT output, I ran another test on a dc motor from a 18V drill which has stronger magnets and the rotor length is 1 ½” as opposed to the 5/8” shaded pole rotor. The rotor shaft could not be turned by the shaded pole motor, so another drill was used to turn it at 1300RPM. It produced 7.5V and 7.40MA with a 100 ohm load.   


Regards, Larry   



Nali2001

Nice build,
The Flynn parallel path motor can very well work as a generator, in fact that is one thing they use it for.
Claiming very good performance as a generator.

The only builders I have seen working on very good replication are some Italian dudes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy3oTS8v1lw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nlspw1HY-w

Best build:
Showing mechanical OU on a bicycle dynanometer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzVXAm_ONIk&feature=related

Note the electric drill in the video is to give a accuracy benchmark of the dynanometer, so you have some sort of a reference point.

Building a Flynn motor is not that impossible or full of hidden tech. Only mayor disadvantaged you need many of the same shape laminations and you hardly can make the lamination your own due to the difficult shape. You need to have them stamped.
Cheap prototyping solution: http://www.protolam.com/page2.html


winsonali

larry C
QuoteThere has been comments on this thread stating that PPMT cannot work as a generator, which does not agree with the statements made in Flynn’s patents WO 2008/119055 and WO 2008/109834 and his two web sites. So I attempted an easy build generator replication based on PPMT technology.

the setup you have shown is a mechanical setup
when i said that PPMTwill not be able to produce electricity it is in case of motionless generation

although very good attempt

altium

Hello friends!
I think this topic is only for the Valeri Ivanov's INKOMP (integral commutator of magnetic fluxes), so lets talk only for the INKOMP device.

He lives in Elin Pelin, Bulgaria. I met him 2 years ago and I saw real efficiency of COP=240%. The official site is www.inkomp.delta.com. The device is commercial

Autor was posted 5 videos in youtube, I find only 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IP-buFHKKU  - first video, there he shows the input power, the output power and finally he calculates the efficiency (COP.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npFVaeSbk1Q - second video from autor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFroLlHDHGU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7x_swEeoqA

Because valeri Ivanov does not want to work with us we can freely discuss his device and try to replicate it.

Enjoy.