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A truly overunity Transformer / Meg

Started by LoganBaker, March 17, 2008, 06:32:56 PM

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Nali2001

Altium,
Do you understand what he is saying on the video?
I don't speak the language.

Is he saying anything interesting regarding switching means, material, or other special thing that are important for us to know?

Thanks

Kator01

Hello all,

there is a big problem with this digital energy-meters which I encountered while I was feeding the primary of a toroid-transformer from the grid via a diode as it is done here in this MEG-Setup.
Nali gave me a lesson on saturable reactors ( remember Nali ? )

Anyway the monitor showed total wrong values of input-power. The only way one can exactly measure actual wattage is with a oszilloscope-measurement on a shunt-resistor in the primary in order to get information about the phaseshift between current and voltage.
These Energy-Monitor-Devices in conjuction with this technique ( feed-in via diode ) are useless. I only remember that the error was in the range of 50 % .

Hope that this will help anyone here who tries to replicate this.

Regards

Kator01

altium

@Nali2001,
of course I understand all in video, because I live in too country. But he not say nothing interesting, only about measurements...
Just look at schematic and think about method of saturation of magnetic cores. The schematic is very clear and understandable.

@sumermagor,
very good! Check your mailbox...

Nali2001

Hi Altium,
Ah ok, I always wanted to know what he is saying in the video's hoping for some info, but I can imagine he is keeping some secrets.

Yes what you have posted is very logical. I'm don't know how much you know about saturable reactors but most of them also have a little coil called a "bias coil/winding" and it is used to tune the core up to the right working range or saturation level, so that the main input coil only has to give very little power to control the total switching level. In other words that bias winding is there to fine tune the behavior of the device.

In the permeability curve of a core material you see a permeability rise before it gets low. And it is the bias winding which sets the operational rage of the device to that level just before the curve starts to drop. So that the main coil does only have to supply very small input signals.

http://www.tpub.com/content/neets/14180/img/14180_154_2.jpg

It could very well be that the inkomp uses such a bias winding as well, or it could benefit from one.
See the picture of what I mean:

sn7401

Quote from: winsonali on December 13, 2009, 05:02:33 PM
nali2001

i will post various versions and patents of PM used in transformers and they are failed to use the proper flux from PM
if we just try to understand where they are making misconception we can reach to conclusions.
all this for sharing knowledge and views.

for instance why this system didn't worked....image posted.

regarding commercialization of my device, yes off course i am a scientist R & D is my bread and butter and i do commercialization but at the same time i will provide information and help to people interested in replication of my work and will send them programmed IC and other required parts so they can assemble by themselves
the systems i am developing they are not home experimenting projects i have a company working and producing my other devices and selling them in local markets i don't put any information regarding sales or marketing over here in respect of forum's integrity. and also my work is to design and create products sales is not my area.

hello, I think this system doesnt work becouse of separate magnets are used...
maybe if we put one big flat PM instead of four small it will work?