The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)

[aleks]

I can say with 90% certainty that you will not see these effects with a ferrite core (ran LOTS of tests, nothing interesting happened)

Do you have frequency response details about ferrite cores you've used? The reason I'm asking is that in my opinion core should be accumulating flux with each pulse. If the ferrite core is fast, flux won't be accumulating. What I'm looking for is back EMF. It is this "background" EMF that gains OU energy with each new pulse. If there is no background EMF energy in the core left from previous pulse, there is nothing present that can benefit from gravity force. Of course, you should not forget about diode placed on the pulse circuit so that back EMF does not flow into the pulse circuitry. In this scenario the only way for the energy to go is though the parallel wound load wire.

Well, I do not mean use ferrite core. Ferromagnetic rather (e.g. iron). Permanent magnet may work as well, but this is not a requirement as much as frequency response of magnetic flux induction.

[eldarion]

OK, I realize that I was extremely unclear and just plain wrong in my last post.  (Posting at ridiculous hours of the night is not a good thing to do...)

What I meant to say, and this will seem quite obvious, is simply:
I set up my iron powder core with three primary (control) windings phased as to set up a rotating magnetic field, and a secondary (collector) wound toroidally all around the core, and another secondary collector wound in the TPU "classical" configuration.  Neither secondary produced any voltage or current.

So, all I can say is that under these particular conditions, there is nothing interesting.  The more I look at the FTPU, however, the more I realize that these are NOT the conditions that are set up in the TPU.

I am out of state and away from my bench for a couple of days, so I cannot test Kames' idea here right now: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4486.msg90644.html#msg90644 , but I will do so as soon as I get back!  Seems intriguing...let's master the basic effect first and then the TPUs will seem blindingly obvious.   Unless we can't with the information given, in which case the TPU will be a long, uphill reverse engineering battle...

Eldarion

[aleks]

I set up my iron powder core

As I've said, the performance should depend on the induction frequency response of this core. I think the basis of gaining OU energy is to have an "energy cloud" around TPU. If core is too fast, all induced energy will leave the core before the next pulse arrives. Ever increasing and saturating flux is a requirement here I think.

I hope your core was fast and that's why your testing failed to give any positive results. If not, well, then we should look for another theory.

[Spider]

@Loner,

Your drawing with the HAL sensors gave me another idea, together with your previous post and some text from the SM PDF.

About the collector:
It is three separate coils of multi strand copper wire laid one on top of the other, not
interleaved. Three is important. You can do many things with three coils. You can run
them in parallel, you can run two in series and one in parallel, or etc.
You can run a separate frequency into each coil for better control on large power units if
need be.
The control wiring is vertically wound in several segments around each of the horizontal
collector coils. Other control wires are wound around all of the horizontal collector coils
together. 
Through the different control wire and coil wire arrangements you can keep complete
control of the unit most of the time.

I am just a mecanical engineer and do not know that much of electronic components and circuitry. Only their basis functions.

Watching the garage video I came up with the following drawing

3 collectors(A,B,C) feeding 3 of the 4 control coils, and the first control coils fed by the output via a HAL and a delay device, and to start the device, maybe a small battery feeding 1.
A runs through 1, B runs through 2 and C runs through 3.

About the control circuit, maybe its intention is to keep the tpu slightly out of fase, to keep it from destructing. Like Sm said in the pdf, the tpu must be a bit out of fase, like a radio.

Like driving a car full trottle, controlling the speed with the brake pedal.

Maybe this idea has been posted previously.... then I appologize, also for my spelling, as english is not my native language.

greetings Rene

[pauldude000]

Questions have been asked about phasing the signal, for example through a crossover system. This is done so that the signals reach a driver in a speaker "out of phase" with each other to the proper degree, so that a flat baffle can be used and yet have the sound reach you at the proper phasing  point so that it is extremely clear. (High-end audio speakers using flat baffle.) It is NOT generally done through the crossover. The crossover splits the single signal containing the full spectrum of audial frequencies into ranges, (Low pass, Bandpass, and High pass) then sends each signal to its respective driver.  The phasing is done through >Phasing Coils<. One wavelength (middle frequency of each frequency range to be Phased) is calculated, then a coil wound from a wire of the proper length to the desired fraction, corresponding directly to a degree of phasing is used for each driver.

How can this be used for single signal phasing in a TPU?



Explanation 1.

One full wavelength is shown. Below it are three separate conductors of lengths matching 1/4, 1/2, and 1 wavelength. Notice the position of each, in respect with the wavelength above it. Electricity travels at the same speed through each, so it will only traverse 1/4 of a wavelength, before exiting the first wire, 1/2 for the second, etc..

Explanation 2.

If the three wires are connected to the same input, then the signal will exit each wire at a different point in its cycle. For instance, we will use an arbitrary number just to demonstrate the point. Say for the sake of argument that it took the electricity 1 second to flow through the 1 wavelength wire, then the half wavelength wire, being half the length, would exit after only 1/2 of a second, and the 1/4 wavelength wire a blazing 1/4 second.

What this means is that the signal out of each would be then out of phase with the others. Remember that one full wave represents 360 degrees of phase (one full cycle). If the signal is applied as to the input point in the pic, it will exit at 1/4 wavelength, or 90 degrees out of phase with the same signal measured at the input point. The 1/2 wavelength wire will be 180 degrees out of phase, and the full wavelength wire would be exactly in phase.

This technique would work for 90 degree phasing (2 or 4 control coils opposing each other).

But what about 120 degree phasing for three coil setups? EASY, as it is 1/3 wavelength! One fu1/3, one 2/3, and one full wavelength! (120, 240 and 360 degrees respectively.)

Paul Andrulis