The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)

[pauldude000]

@all

Some preliminary results:


First, a description. 10 guage solid collectors (three wound pancake, stacked vertically insulated from each other.) of three full turns. Two different sets of controls.

1st Set: Quadrature winding of four coils CW. (Wind first for full quarter circle, then next, and so on.)

2nd Set: Four bifiliar (all four wound at once) CW around entire TPU.

(Later I will add a third set over this, consisting of three at 120 degrees.)


I have noticed an increase of available power. With a 10X probe, and 5V/Div. setting on the scope, I show 120V with one frequency generator driving one set of coils. Before, voltage would drop to almost non-existance with a load, with my best being the previous coil putting out over 240+ Volts, but dropping to 2V with any kind of a load. With this coil, applying a load only drops the voltage to 25V, which is MUCH better.

@Otto

I re-read your pdf just for ideas, and noticed something important. Otto, when you speak of sines, you are referring to sines induced on the top of squares in the output in your pdf scope shots. When I speak of sines, I am referring to pure sine wave AC. For instance, the 120V above mentioned refers to 120 Volt Peak to Peak Sine Wave A.C.

I am not talking "spikes", Modulated square wave signals, etc.... Pure true A.C. I am generating this with pulsed square wave DC at 15v PtoP signal, with just a frequency generator....... NO EXTERNAL POWER SUPPLY, NO MOSFET DRIVERS, ETC..... JUST SIGNAL GENERATOR! IE diddly squat input power.

I think I have possibly found a different principle, available from the same device. Or maybe  that this may be inherent with the DC with hash, if we are  talking a Standing Wave of Sine A.C.. (You would only see one voltage point of a standing wave A.C., it would appear as a seemingly D.C. source. The pseudo D.C. voltage point would necessarily be whatever angle of the sine that appears at the output of the collector.)

Paul Andrulis

[pauldude000]

@otto

You may be a genius!

@All

Contemplating for a sec over otto's and Ronotte's  PDF gave me an idea....

How possibly to wind for specific tuning to a specific frequency.... EASILY.....

Thanks Otto.... NOW I HAVE TO WIND ANOTHER ONE!!!!   

Paul Andrulis

[pauldude000]

Instead of ---> ****another duplicate post... sorry****

I am going to turn this into something worthwhile.

@all

I have a question, that maybe someone here can answer, as I am befuddled by something....

(Note FG = Function Generator, all pulsing done on quadrature control coils, 2 opposing in series of four for each FG. All voltage measurements taken from collectors with 10x probe and scope at either 1v or 5v. Collectors not connected electrically to controls. Only inductive coupling.)

Why does input voltage (not amperage) play such a LARGE role in output voltage at a specific frequency?

On my current coil, I can get a nine volt signal on the collectors with my digital FG output set at 1V even.... Yet, this same FG at it's max 10 volts PtoP produces only around 50 Volts P to P on the collectors.

With all connections the same, at the same frequency, my B&K at ten volts produces the same 50 Volts output using the same set of controls. Yet my B&K goes to 15 volts PtoP, and at its highest setting of 15 Volts PtoP I get over 120 Volts output PtoP on the collectors!

If 1 volt produces 9 volts, and 10 produces 50, then why 15 producing 120 This is definately a non-linear event of some kind..

The ratios do not make any sense: 1to9 1to5 and 1to8..... ?

Also, the last five volts producing well over half the output???

Now, the same TPU, with BOTH FGs running a series CC section of two coils each yields only max 125 Volts together. Remember the B&K at full output producing 120 volts, and the Digital producing 50 by itself. Shut either off, and you get exactly the aforementioned for each....


Any Ideas???

Paul Andrulis

[pauldude000]

@loner

Your interpretation is close. Fed directly from the FG with squares 15 PtoP D.C.. Ouput from the collectors is pure sine A.C..

I am ready to tentatively accept most anything at this point.... I am confused. It may well be RE or something. It sure isn't acting like the electricity I know.

If this is non-linear additive, then I am going to have to be VERY careful of applied voltage. I wonder if more power input in watts per same voltage will increase the output.

It may well sound familiar. I wound it using all premises found in SM's statements in the PDF. 3 horizontal collectors of at least three turns. 3 or more (IE 4) collectors (in quadrature), and "more control wires wrapped around the entire circumference" (4 in bifiliar). I intend to test output with the collectors feeding back into one then the other control set, with the opposite pulsed.


Paul Andrulis

[buzz-ard]

@ Paul - you are seeing the same square-to-sine conversion that I've seen several times now. At lower frequencies you can sometimes see the input square pulses riding on top of the sines, which demonstrates to me that there is indeed a conversion of some sort taking place, not just plain inductance and transformation. The sine wave frequency appeared to be a fraction of the square input frequency, like 1:20 or so (now I wish I had paid more attention). The first time I saw this is when I had started playing with feedback from the secondaries into the primaries, way back at what I call TPU1, and again in TPU4. http://www.randallsteward.com/TPU/ The super-imposed square would rise from the sine trace, stay on for 50%, then drop back down. If we assume the sine trace as zero-volts, there was no negative component shown in the square artifacts. Perhaps the negative square component is what was converted into the sine?