The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)

[buzz-ard]

@forest - In those terms, there won't be any back EMF until there is flow, and the kick happens before the flow.

But I am open-minded and eager to learn. Both SM and Stan Deyo relate that there is a difference between the earth's hemispheres that affects these toroidal devices. SM overcame it somehow, but I don't know about Deyo.

[forest]

Thank you for explanation. You mentioned that this effect occurs only in cold circuit. What do you mean by cold circuit ? A state when vacuum tubes have not heated enough filaments ?

[Jon]

@buzzard

I'm a little curious about your circuit board - it doesn't appear to be a prototyping backplane, but instead a manufactured design

I etched the board becuase there is too much to put on a breadboard and I find perf boards take way too long to solder and they always end up ugly. I can post more details but a new improved design is in order.

@all

I would like to know if anyone is interested in working on a group platform for TPU testing. If we can design a board that can be used by lots of people then we don't all have to recreate the same builting blocks.

It could consist of a back plate board that defines pins to connect to the TPU as well as interchangable TPU controller cards and computer interface cards. As a goup we can each have one of these back plates and work on new controller cards as we learn more. We could have the boards proffessionally made with a cost savings if several people are interested. Having a shared platform should make communicating easier as well.

To start the design I mock up a high level block diagram of each functional component I want. The boards and cards I have made will cost a bit though about $75 in parts alone.

Please let me know if you are interested.

Thanks

http://freeenergygroup.com/

[duff]

@poynt99 and Buzz

Let me explain a little better my current understanding and it may clear up a little confusion. I think the kick has to do with voltage leading the current on a cold circuit. However, I USED to think it a magnetic field effect, as do many others still. However, I do not think it a magnetic field effect, but probably an electric field effect. I cannot state for sure, as I am guessing at this point. However, what I am seeing ties closely to Loners statement of a "pressure" wave front (or voltage in this case). The "kicks" also tend to caused a damped wave resonance in an improperly tuned circuit, which is what had me fooled for a long time. The effects tend to mask the event.

However, I do know that the "kicks" are easily reproducible, but from my own semi-skeptical viewpoint, I also know that the other scope shots I could produce, excuses would abound about what is being seen.

Almost all of these possible excuses have to do with the magnetic field. Therefore, cancel the field, cancel the excuses.
 
Another major excuse is "transformer action". Remove the possibility of transformer action, no excuse.

Another major excuse is resonance action. Remove the possibility of resonance, no excuse.

Otherwise, I could post scope shots all day long of the effect in various forms, and we would hear nothing but "It is this or that". Reproducing the kicks are simple. Reproducing the kicks where someone cannot easily disregard them is not necessarily so easy.

Now Poynt, I am not saying you would do this, but I know there are hundreds here whom would, and I don't feel like any more senseless arguments from them. What is worse, I know there will be even with the experiment I have designed. 

If anyone sees exceptions to the rule they would like to see canceled out as a possibility, now is the time as I will be doing the scope work/ pics Sunday. (I have been having to work on a stinking car, this afternoon I have to replace a starter, and tomorrow is the sabbath.)

Paul Andrulis

Please try to eliminate the possibility of the kicks being reflections from the end of the line.

   Reflection from a SOFT boundary having the polarity the same as the incident wave.
   
   Reflection from a HARD boundary having an inverted polarity.


-Duff

[buzz-ard]

@duff - Excellent suggestion. The simplest kick test I've seen anyone mention here is shorting the terminals of a 9V battery with a length of wire. A fast diode on the positive terminal should prevent scope artifacts caused by reflection if any are present, no?