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The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)

Started by pauldude000, April 09, 2008, 08:35:14 PM

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Michelinho



Hi everyone,

Although I have not touched the TPU, its mysteries place it on equal footing as the Nathan Stubblefield cell.

I have developed a theory of a possible explanation as to its principles, operation and construction in the last few days and would like to share what's there and invite comments to help prefect it or trash it if it is worthless. You will probably see the evolution of it too.

As I understand it, the theory could be applied to the TPU construction in some form and also to other replication model.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4455.640.html  p. 17-18

I would appreciate any comment. Thanks


Take care,

Michel

pauldude000

@Kude

If you listen to the high quality version of the vid JDO300 has, from Jack Durban, you notice something else as well. SM outright states that the output is AC, and NOT DC. 

Right after he makes the statement about X000 hz DC, someone asks him, and he quickly replied it was AC but, and I quote SM....."For all intents and purposes it is DC". High frequency AC might as well BE DC, since it reacts more like DC than low frequency AC.

Tesla coils themselves are inherently AC devices. DC could be used, IF PULSED. Pulsed DC ACTS like AC in its effects. Let me explain.

I can produce sine wave D.C., square wave D.C., sawtooth, triangle, staircase, etc... D.C. waves. I can also do all of these using A.C.

The difference is that A.C. uses a "push pull" system, in that the current changes polarity in reference to ground. D.C. ALWAYS stays either above or below ground. You can have a 6000HZ D.C. signal, if the signal is say square wave. The only manner DC will not give some form of a wave, is if the voltage remains constant over time. (For instance, the unmodified voltage from a DC source such as a battery.)

It also makes sense that the TPU uses an AC signal for part, as it is MUCH easier to achieve a rotating magnetic wave with AC than DC, from what I have seen in my own experimentation. Tesla's rotating field device were also AC. Just notice what SM pointed out as interesting,(something that Tesla already pointed out much earlier) that an A.C. signal can travel down the same conductor with a D.C. signal. It is also true of off-harmonic A.C. signals. D.C. from what I have seen is not so picky.

With linear resonance (Ordinary oscillation or derived harmonics), these effects are strictly limited in scope. Summing is possible to a small degree, and full signal blending can be done completely through phase locking (Using a PLL). With linear resonance, the relationships do not change. You increase the voltage, and the current drops. You decrease the voltage, and the current raises. Etc. Etc. Etc. In essence, for linear resonation, the effects STAY LINEAR in nature.

What is necessary is NONLINEAR resonation, since we desire NONLINEAR effects. Tesla used this, and I am glad grumpy gave the examples he did.

There are a couple of ways to achieve nonlinearity.

1. Apply a nonlinear signal to a linear device (applying a nonlinear resonant signal to a closed linear circuit)
2. Apply a linear signal to a nonlinear device.
3. Apply a nonlinear signal to a nonlinear device.

Tesla's amplifier was a nonlinear device to begin with, since the secondary was an open system and not a closed system electrical resonating device. Yet the primary is LINEAR, since it is a closed system.

Want to IMPROVE the design of a Tesla coil? Simple..... make the primary nonlinear in that you FEED it nonlinear signals. (A linear resonant tank being fed nonlinear signals). This does away with the need for a spark gap.

The spark gap is in effect a weird semiconductor. It works by breakdown, in that it conducts only after a certain potential is reached on the capacitor. The air then breaks down, heats up, and conducts quite well. It releases the energy stored within the capacitor, which slams through the circuit, charges and rebounds off of the other side of the capacitor, then flows again and again, back and forth through the circuit until the energy present is insufficient to hold the air in the gap conductive. The process shuts down, until the capacitor charges again to a high enough potential.

Now, the frequencies generated are a direct product of the linear resonance of the tank circuit forming the primary coil/capacitor. The frequencies and harmonics generated are going to then be linear in nature. However, if these frequencies just happen to be multiples of three verses the calculated quarter wavelength frequency for which the secondary is tuned, the WHOLE SYSTEM becomes both nonlinear and superharmonic (a specific TYPE of nonlinear resonance) as well. Add the extra amplification due to the extra nonlinear coils....... :) (OUCH.)

You can get rid of the spark gap by applying superharmonic signals directly to the tank.

Most people wind junk Tesla coils, for the simple reason they BUILD them to work linearly.  (Based upon misunderstanding of Mr. Tesla's goals, words, and choices of design.)

Paul Andrulis
Finding truth can be compared to panning for gold. It generally entails sifting a huge amount of material for each nugget found. Then checking each nugget found for valuable metal or fool's gold.

pauldude000

@all concerning nonlinear signals

A good question is "What then constitutes a nonlinear signal?"

A nonlinear signal can be any signal applied to a circuit for which it is not designed to handle in an ordinary manner. For instance, Pulsed D.C. can be nonlinear. By definition, an A.C. signal locked to a D.C. current (A.C. with a D.C. bias, or the scalar potential of the AC wave acting upon the extra electrons presented by the DC signal.) is nonlinear. Several nonlinear approaches have been tried from what I have noticed, in various ways, with various results.

I was so happy to see JDO300 in one of his youtube videos pulsing an open coil (nonlinear device) with his signal generator looking for effects. This made me think a LONG time ago about some of the effects he noticed, with just a single signal. Difference now/verses then? I understand what was happening then, now. ;D

However, none of those mentioned are superharmonic. This only comes into play with 1/3 or X3 frequency multiples. Comparison of resonant effects with linear resonance, is like comparing the smell of a fart in the wind to a cattle feedlot.  (One may smell for a brief instant, but the other re-defines the term stink.)

The problem with superharmonic resonance is going to be frequency drift. To much, and it should kill the effect. The closer to exact frequency the more should be the summing effect.

Paul Andrulis
Finding truth can be compared to panning for gold. It generally entails sifting a huge amount of material for each nugget found. Then checking each nugget found for valuable metal or fool's gold.

Michelinho

Hello everyone,


Paul, I am at page 5 of this very interesting thread.

I am researching the Stubblefield cell at the moment and I saw the TPU in your posted picture below while learning from all with great interest.

If what I have theorized is partly correct, this Stubblefield cell is a small version of the TPU but with a higher efficiency being a possibility.

I explain in my words and I will try not to impress with catchy words as you said would trouble the water.

The Stubblefield cell is a TPU rolled on itself. The output coil is an integral part of the iron coil and I think all the ferrite core would never make one working TPU.

What I may have found is according to the Letters of Patent (widely available everywhere) and a little help from the Great Tesla in Patent #433702 is that he experimented with iron oxide and knew well its potential power.

The Stubble field is a special bifilar coil as only one end of each coil is used and the other end left open most of the time.
It uses an iron wire and an insulated copper wire. I have yet to test for kind, waterproof or not.

The two wires are insulated from the core and wound side by side in a row and in columns of superposed copper wire or iron wire. If you visualize the coil, it looks like alternating copper and iron discs and that arrangement is very important (according to patent also) according to the theory I barfed in the Stubblefield thread. It not my fault, it is the way my brain works and I try to work with it in harmonious manner and it has rewarded me handsomely throughout life.

The rows are insulated from each others with a cloth of unspecified thickness except in the accuracy of the sketches attached to the Letters of Patent.

The introduction of water at first during conditioning of the cell ( mini tpu) promote rust in the coil and on the core. Around the cell, there is a control coil. It is used during the conditioning of the cell which is the time it takes the rust to fill the voids. But it is also suggest that the control coil be powered during the conditioning. I suppose a small load is connected to the output of the cell for draining.

The rust is iron oxide or ferrous oxide or under other names when grown under a magnetic field which divert their growth. You have to visualize the special magnetic fields created everywhere except outside of the coil. Well, almost as it is a bifilar coil, it should show no outside magnetic field but it does because I expect that the outer rims of the alternating discs behave like individual magnetic source and create possibly a rotating field but I am sidestepping. The iron oxide crystal latices grow in a strong magnetic field that orient their planes toward the copper wire and the voids filled, it grips the copper wire at a molecular level. The rows are cleverly arranged as to repel themselves magnetically and prevent the growth of iron oxide between those row. It may also induced oscillation. I have read that iron or ferrous oxide is a high frequency filter but I can't find the document. That is a crude attempt at explaining the basis of my theory.

Iron oxide and brothers are playing some parts in many advanced product including supraconduction. I remind you I am talking RUST. That thing we totally exclude from our experiments but the old guards did not and Stubblefield and Tesla knew each others and possibly cooperated on this project.

So to adapt my theory to the TPU, roll an air coil like the stubblefield cell, condition it and put your small control coil on one side seeded with an electronic fly swatter circuit or high voltage circuit, pulsed at whatever frequency you want. An oil wick to keep the crystal structure in a constant level of stress.

So my theory makes the old friends like Tesla and his Pierce Arrow and Stubblefield with is illuminated hills and telephone power packs fathers of this principle.

Take care,

Michel




Michelinho


RE:

But I have two questions.

Could copper oxide play a role? If so, then the insulation on the copper wire needs to be porous.

The crystal lattice under a strong magnetic field is compressed and oriented, could it change some angles at the molecular level? (pure speculation)

Take care,

Michel