Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

[Pirate88179]

reddy:

Yes, I am familiar with Bedini's work, very good stuff there.  I am not familiar with Beatty's work so I will google him.  Thanks for the tip.

Bill

[Michelinho]

Hi there folks,

I am about to build my first Stubblefield cell and would very much like to see a recap of your long posts on the subject. Like all long post, not all is relevant. I have read a good part so far but it is a bit hard to follow as everyone mixes in ideas and concepts not related to this particular model of energy cell.

The general description is:  a special design cell battery harnessing electricity from telluric (ground) currents  or in other ways or a combination of sources.

The patent description is:  a bifilar coil wounded in a specific way around a soft iron core that produces a steady stream of usable energy. A control coil surrounds the cell when used in earth battery application as a selenoid or a cell conditioner. Once the cell is conditioned, the electrical loop starts flowing and should produce useful energy for a long period of time.

So far I have collected all the data that I found relevant, reconstructed on paper the patent from its different ideas and made all the building sketches. The parts are nearly all collected and the assembly will begin soon after. The coil will be 5" long x 2" wide  bifilar awg 20 of 600 turns, the soft iron core is a 5/8" x 10" long grade 5 bolt with nuts and washers The control coil will be made of 3,000 feet of awg 25 magnet wire.

What works and what not? What has been tried? Who made the exact patent cell replication and what were the results?  Thanks.

Take care all and keep searching,

Michel

[Pirate88179]

Michel:

Welcome to our group.  I am sorry to say that the best way to see what we have tried, and what has worked, and to what degree, is to read the previous posts of this topic, as well as Localjoe's original topic.  Yes, we have drifted around a bit but, that is why I started this topic, for the speculation part of it.  Joe's topic sticks more on point to the original earth battery experiments using electrodes as well as bifilar coils.

As I recall, the best results with the coil replication were somewhere near 90 mA's at about 1 vdc.  You mentioned using magnet wire on your control.  Keep in mind all wire must be uninsulated to the point that moisture can flow between the iron and cu wires as well as the core.  We have been using different variations of cotton as Stubblefield did.

In my opinion, I think the most fascinating part of the work I have done is using a supercap to capture the energy and then, use it like a battery to light an led or whatever.

I have still not figured out the coil configurations to a decent level of understanding.  My large coil is still buried out in the garden but is dead as of yesterday.  I have not dug it up yet but i am convinced it was due to my addition of a generous amount of vinegar to increase the output. It worked really well...for a while.  I think that had I not done that, my coil would still be doing its thing.

Please keep us posted of your efforts and also, post photos if you can.  If you have any additional questions, I'll try to help out the best I can.

Bill

[Michelinho]

Thanks Pirate88179,

I will check on Joe's topic and try to narrow down the best way to make it work as intended.

Take care.

Michel

[Michelinho]

Hi everyone,

I did some reading (Page 8 so far) on the interesting Stubblefield Cell post by localjoe. Very nice since the pace is much faster than live. You can also skip unrelated discussions.

I will first try to sum up some of my ideas of the Stubblefield Cell functioning as I see it from the Patent then how I intend to proceed. Maybe jumpstart a few new ideas.

The sketches showed in the patent represent an electrolytic ?magnetic capacitor?. Two of the coils ends are out but not used (intended)  in the single cell or battery model.

The secondary coil is very important if the cell is a ?magnetic capacitor?. It is first used as a cell conditioner and second as a solenoid as mentioned in the patent but it was not clearly related. It jumpstarts the next cycle by intensifying the South pole magnetic antenna. It also has to be big to give strong enough bemf re magnetize the south antenna to a sufficient level and supply the load with the building magnetic field from the core. A little output will be noted on the load terminals or the cell during conditioning. This has to be used (dissipated).

The cell has to be conditioned until it starts producing real energy by connecting  to a telluric current capillary and induce self oscillation when the control (conditioner or secondary) coil is connected to the unused wire ends from the bemf. This part is still in the working.

The  ferrous core has to be conditioned so the end touching the ground or water becomes a South pole or a North pole depending if it is anode or cathode. A pointed tip is not optimal. Based on Howard Johnson's "The Secret World of Magnets".

The cells need to be at a good distance from each others and depth is of no importance. Telluric current ?capillaries? attracts and repels each others.

To connect two cells in series, connect the outside wires to the outside wire of the other cell free ends as usual.  The center taps of the bifilar coil connect to secondary coil or conditioner coil or solenoid.

So I plan to proceed as such:

Build a Stubblefield cell as per the Patent.

Insert in soil or moist the bifilar coil.

Pulse the secondary coil at 60 hz in such a way (pulsed dc) as to obtain a South pole in the ground and North pole outside. (You might catch your utility overflow). 

Use electronic to monitor the start of the battery and insert a load after it has done so while switching the secondary coil to cell's center taps.

Wait till the anode and/or cathode connects to one of the telluric current capillary.

Pursue other venues while waiting.



Awaiting your comments,

Michel