Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

[storre]

What about the idea of quickly shorting the battery with a NC reed switch across the 2 different metal wires (getting one end from the opposite end) so to make it a type of pulsed dc or ac. The reed switch would be opened by the magnetic field built up from the instant it was closed. A page or 2 back I put up a drawing that better describes it. I also heard Thrapp talking about using a NC reed switch and it seems he made one that way that was successful. I see without this action then it's just a normal galvanic cell.

How do you mean by insulating the coils? You mean putting one metal coil in one bottle of water and the other metal coil in a separate bottle? I've always assumed the coils were there to create the magnet to activate the switch so that it just turned on and off many times per second but coils have some strange properties so maybe something else is going on here.

[jeanna]

I've always assumed the coils were there to create the magnet to activate the switch so that it just turned on and off many times per second but coils have some strange properties so maybe something else is going on here.

Yes, and

Hopefully we or some of us will be able to show this.

Dr Stiffler said

...to remove chemical action, you have just an poor battery of two dissimilar metals with the earth providing the electrolyte

There ought to be more reactions than just the chemical galvanic one. In fact that is a  rather poor part of this thing.

There ought to be pairs of galvanic and electrolysis reactions happening many times per second.

The hard part (for me at least) is that if we slow down the double reaction just to look at it it may not even happen.

Storre,
I hope your NC reed switches get there soon. I don't see joe or any others who have had this type of  plan coming up with cells to show their progress. I am really looking forward to your shared results.

I have to plant some seeds today, but I am still interested in what this NS generator will do with the reed switch in place.

I guess 2 more weeks?

jeanna

[storre]

My last few parts are on there way and will arrive hopefully June 12. Got 500 yards of cotton 1/8" ID tubing from wickstore.com and 20 or so different types of NC reed switches. The rest I have. I'm going to start with 2mm wire and wood for the assembly following the patent as much as possible. He doesn't talk about the reed switch but I plan to find a spot on the cell (i'm guessing the top of the bolt) where the mf is strongest and then try to mount it there. My coil is 3.5" from inner end to inner end. Not sure how many meters I will get on it but I will start with as much as possible.

[DrStiffler]

Yes, and

Hopefully we or some of us will be able to show this.

Dr Stiffler saidThere ought to be more reactions than just the chemical galvanic one. In fact that is a  rather poor part of this thing.

There ought to be pairs of galvanic and electrolysis reactions happening many times per second.

The hard part (for me at least) is that if we slow down the double reaction just to look at it it may not even happen.

Storre,
I hope your NC reed switches get there soon. I don't see joe or any others who have had this type of  plan coming up with cells to show their progress. I am really looking forward to your shared results.

I have to plant some seeds today, but I am still interested in what this NS generator will do with the reed switch in place.

I guess 2 more weeks?

jeanna

@jeanna
The point is to not have galvanic reactions and electrolysis is a total bust. You want to capture energy without using up your materials, right?

Don't know if you have seen this info, but maybe it will be of help.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis

http://wapedia.mobi/en/Standard_electrode_potential

http://wapedia.mobi/en/Galvanic_series

[jeanna]

He doesn't talk about the reed switch but I plan to find a spot on the cell (i'm guessing the top of the bolt) where the mf is strongest and then try to mount it there.

Yes, the top is very strong. I noticed back when I was looking at my coils with a compass, that the turn around at the bottom seemed to be stronger. I mean that the compass would very smartly or sharply snap itself into position at the bottom.

It may be the same at the top only it is harder to tell because the wires are in the way.

I just thought I'd mention it. I don't know if you have used a compass with your coils yet. If not have a go, it is interesting. 

I want to revisit that site with the video that showed the wires at the bottom.

The patent shows something that is impossible.

It shows the wires starting and ending at the top. NOW, THE IMPOSSIBLE PART IS THAT HE SHOWS 5 ROWS. It is either an even number of rows or it starts at the top and ends at the bottom.

Now, I just learned in the book that he was also a caligrapher and proud of it so, I am quite sure he drew the patent drawing himself. So, I think there is good reason to follow this line. To my knowledge, no one has yet made one that ends at the bottom.

Do you remember that I said you could check your coil while the wires were still attached to the spool of wire on the floor?

When I was doing that winding, I noticed that the volts n amps were always higher when they were arranged that way and got less when I finished the layer at the top.

So, I'm just saying this because I didn't say it earlier, and you might want to check it out. (check me out.)

Dr Stiffler said;

The point is to not have galvanic reactions and electrolysis is a total bust. You want to capture energy without using up your materials, right?

Yes, exactly.

I probably used the wrong words. Electroplating is what I meant when I said electrolysis. So, the coil has a zero net change.

And, yes, the trick is to catch a little juice as it flies by on its way to elsewhere.

jeanna