Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

[Pirate88179]

@ Gary:

Yes, I am hoping for something like that to happen.  As for the center core, as I said, it was just an afterthought that comes under the heading of ....hey, what if.....?  I have no basis to think it will do anything positive and it might have the opposite effect, or none at all.  I guess I am looking for that breakthrough and, well, you know how it is, no crazy idea is left without consideration.

When my Dad passed away, I received his very expensive and sensitive Omega meter.  It also tests thermocouples as well.  I am hoping to be able to pick up subtle changes in output when rotating the different layers of coils in relation to their gaps.  Maybe the gaps all need to be lined up, or maybe staggered 180 degrees, or maybe something other than that.  Maybe none of it will make any measurable difference at all.  I just want to find out.  Thanks.

Bill

[resonanceman]

@ Gary:

Yes, I am hoping for something like that to happen.  As for the center core, as I said, it was just an afterthought that comes under the heading of ....hey, what if.....?  I have no basis to think it will do anything positive and it might have the opposite effect, or none at all.  I guess I am looking for that breakthrough and, well, you know how it is, no crazy idea is left without consideration.

When my Dad passed away, I received his very expensive and sensitive Omega meter.  It also tests thermocouples as well.  I am hoping to be able to pick up subtle changes in output when rotating the different layers of coils in relation to their gaps.  Maybe the gaps all need to be lined up, or maybe staggered 180 degrees, or maybe something other than that.  Maybe none of it will make any measurable difference at all.  I just want to find out.  Thanks.

Bill

Sounds  interesting

I would think that   the coils should  be   able to pick up  earth currents  better than   rods


gary

[Pirate88179]

Gary and all:

Here should be a picture of another related design idea that I will try first.  The parts are easier/cheaper to locate.  If nothing else, this design allows for a greater overall mass to be placed in a smaller space.  There is nothing adjustable in this design as of yet but, I am hopeful that the total mass will drive up the mA output while utilizing less space than the straight coil design.  We will see.  Any thoughts?

Bill

[resonanceman]

Gary and all:

Here should be a picture of another related design idea that I will try first.  The parts are easier/cheaper to locate.  If nothing else, this design allows for a greater overall mass to be placed in a smaller space.  There is nothing adjustable in this design as of yet but, I am hopeful that the total mass will drive up the mA output while utilizing less space than the straight coil design.  We will see.  Any thoughts?

Bill

Bill

I  don't  have any idea if that would  make a  better coil
It  does  look  like it would be very hard to wind .
   

I have also  been thinking  of how to get the most  bang for the buck

Toroids  are interesting    they  seem to   concentrate  the  magnetic flux .
What  about making  a toroidal  stubblfield  coil ?
The  core could be made of  iron  wire .

Of  course ....... that  wire should be  insulated  to prevent  eddy currents .
SO ......we would have  in effect a core of iron magnet wire ...........why not  keep the ends out   and  see  if  any current  developes in the core itself ?   .............Or what happens when the core is pulsed .
It may  open  whole  new possibility's 

I have did a little  testing
If I  am right shellac  was one of the original  insulators used for magnet wires .
I have tested a  little  wire .
I used  a 3 pound  coil  of  rebar tie  wire .
The coil of wire can be laid on its side and " rolled " in place  with a  shallow tray of  shellac  next to it .
It is  a real pain  to try to do long lengths   like this ...

I have  some ideas for  a semi- auto  coater .....not sure when I can get to it

The  rebar tie  wire   comes  slighttly  oily ......the  shellac l doesn't seem to mind  the oil

The insulation seems to be good .......and  farily tuff .......
haven't checked it  for  high voltage yet .


gary

[Pirate88179]

Gary:

The only problem I see with using shellac for insulation is that it will not pass water like the cotton will.  The moisture is part of the key I think.  Otherwise, we could just use regular plastic insulated wire which we all agree would be sooooo much easier to wind.

Yes, winding the spring would be a super pain in the a** but worth it if it does anything good.  If it doesn't, I am going to be pissed!!!! Ha ha ha.

Bill