Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

[jeanna]

@anyone:
Question about winding the NS EB.    I read that someone (Jeanna??) thought that Stubblefield wanted each succeeding layer of coil to be exactly on top of the first, meaning cu exactly on top of cu, and fe exactly on top of fe.

That was just an idea.
The way I did it was at the bottom when it was time to go back to the toward the top again, I lifted up both wires and placed them on top of the colors they matched. then they were in the right place.
I do not think I was ever successful doing that, because long before I got to the top again they had slipped off.
I was grabbing at straws at that point.

[One of the interesting things about this thing is that it makes what is known as a caduceus coil. One with 2 strands. Koen started a thread about the caduceus as an ancient item of interest during the time I was winding these coils . He put up some pictures and I immediately saw that this is what NS had made. Right down to the 2 strands of DNA. The utter universality of it convinced me then that this NS coil has merit and I will work at figuring it out!]

One more thing...  Does it make any difference in the direction you start a coil?  Does it have to be clockwise or counterclockwise...and why. 

No, it doesn't.
That delightful foray into the ancient past helped me know this because I needed to explain to Koen how if you continue to wind the same direction around the core, but the progress of the turns changes direction this is the same thing as if you were winding it in the other direction. So one way it is cw going back it is ccw. or the reverse.

I have since learned/ discovered/realized that it is just because the earth currents are constantly moving and changing that the coil works. It works no matter which way it is coiled.

About the scope...

It is a measure of pulses over time. So, time is as important an element as the height of the pulses.
All you see in a scope reading is the height of the pulse and the time it takes.

On my scope the very top line says the length of time in one division. On my scope one division of time seems to be one pixel or dot going left to right. So, it is showing the resolution of the wave.

I can see the whole wave but I can get closer and closer. The thing reminds me of fractals, how so many times I get closer in to the wave and I see a repetition of what I saw earlier from a greater distance. That alone can add confusion.
But if it were not for the digital read-out, I would have not seen that. I am not sure how it is on Bills regular type scope. I hope that tells you a little.

jeanna

[Pirate88179]

Jeanna:

It is pretty much the same on my scope...as far as I know with what little I know about it.  The only way I can read frequency though is to determine it from the scope reading and the position all of my dials are in at that time...it does not give a a direct read out.  That is why I have not posted anything about my freqs. yet as I could be off several orders of magnitude, ha ha.

Bill

[jeanna]

So Bill, I have seen people on youtube literally counting the squares to say what the voltage or frequency is. Is that what you need to do?

I have a couple of pix which I would like to show tonight to document what happened today.

I added another NS coil into the ground near the Carbon rods at the north of my EER. There has been one near the south for a couple of days.

The initial reading was very low and it seemed that the new coil was taking the voltage down. It may be, however, I got some good pix just as it was getting dark.

I want to make some comparisons and I will try to do them in a way that will make it easy to compare the effects of the 2 coils.

I think these are comparable resolutions. I cannot see the later ones so well. first 2 are with NS#9
Second 2 are with NS#9 and NS#10

jeanna

[protonmom]

@Bill
Could you direct me to your post where you told how you hooked up your coil when you first were able to light an LED?  I missed that somewhere along the line.  No matter what I do, I have yet to get an LED to light.  Maybe I am using the wrong LED size?  I have tried both blue and white and no go.  Both with resistors.  What am I missing?  Thanks  ( I know the led's are good because they light just fine with a 6 volt battery)

@all
Here is my newest NS EB # 3.  I wetted it down yesterday and then let it drain overnight.  This one looks promising, more so than my first baby.  (I have now replaced first baby back in the ground and will show readings asap) Are the readings shown on this new coil about right... or not???
Can anyone tell me whether or not the wire you use to keep animals in the yard (or out of the yard) is okay to use for the secondary winding?  (Edit:  I think it is called invisible fence elec wire, or something like that.)  I have a lot of it, and hate to throw it out.  Would like to use it for this if it will work.

Edit Note:  On the third photo, the neg lead is hooked up to the bottom end.  Just wanted to see what would happen.  However, the reading was the same when I hooked up to the fe top lead.

[protonmom]

Jeanna, have you  tried to hook up those readings to a music program, or to a light program like the one Bill has?  (I THINK it was Bill who had that program anyway)  I would like to hear the earth "singing" with your scope readings.  Is it possible to do such a thing?