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Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

Started by Pirate88179, April 09, 2008, 09:43:54 PM

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1tesla01

Guys ,A must is to look up Teslas electromagnet patient ,a flat wound pancake coil  is what I am  talking about.This configuration is coil #2 must read completly.This particular has a 1000 times input to output.Do your math you will love this! Andy 

resonanceman

Quote from: 1tesla01 on April 20, 2008, 06:16:42 PM
Guys ,A must is to look up Teslas electromagnet patient ,a flat wound pancake coil  is what I am  talking about.This configuration is coil #2 must read completly.This particular has a 1000 times input to output.Do your math you will love this! Andy 

Andy I  will  check out  that  patent .

You  siad it  has 1000 times more  ouput  than input .........what  is  normally  used for input ??   AC ?   RF ?   

gary





Pirate88179

@ All:

By attaching the positive lead to my carbon rod and the minus lead to the coil core I read 1.3vdc.  This had low mA's. (around 10) This was parallel so it should have boosted the mA's I thought.  Series would raise the volts so why did they go up?  I just checked again outside and got, for a fleeting moment, 69 mA's from the core to the copper wire from the coil.  It dropped down to the high 50's very quickly.  Just testing the coil alone, if I leave it attached to the meter for a bit, the vdc climbs to and holds at 93.  Then, when testing the mA's, which are high at this point, when they drop down, the test for the vdc has lowered as well. (to about .85)  Then, in a few minutes of being hooked to the meter (on volts setting) it climbs back to about 93 and settles.  Why is this doing this? I took a few pictures but am having a real problem reducing below 50 kb.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

jeanna

Quote from: resonanceman on April 20, 2008, 08:10:18 PM
Andy I  will  check out  that  patent .

You  siad it  has 1000 times more  ouput  than input .........what  is  normally  used for input ??   AC ?   RF ?   

gary

Gary,
Quote from: 1tesla01 on April 20, 2008, 06:16:42 PM
Guys ,A must is to look up Teslas electromagnet patient Andy 
Here is the patent number

512340

I printed it out and have read it a couple of times. It is pretty clear too.


But we won't be getting any 1000 fold increase by winding around a core bolt because the diameter doesn't increase that much with each turn. Tesla mentions this very thing in the patent.

But the point he makes very clearly is that the coil is a capacitor.

He was looking for a way to make a coil that was its own capacitor and by winding as he describes, he got such a potential difference going out the pancake that it was 1000 fold.

@ Bill, I think I recognize your readings from today. I also boosted my cu wire by connecting it to the carbon rods too.

I think it is a kind additive but not really series. The carbon is like an extension of the cu so it is more + than the cu is by itself. I added to this boost by hooking the fe to the mag block or the zn stick too. Thus making the fe more negative.

I think it is curious and may be a way to boost the input of the coil. The problem with it is it's like putting battery juice through the coil the wires will probably corrode .

I would suggest that we should not go overboard on creating the galvanic part. It might unbalance the coil to cause corrosion by not allowing enough electrolysis happen. (the electrolysis would replace the metals back onto the original wires stopping the corrosion. NS repeated that the coil need only be moist.

I thought  I was going to take today off! hmm. guess not. Interesting stuff today.

@Gary, I am wondering if you are calling your coil a cap BECAUSE there is no galvanic reax going on? because you used a dry set up? I am not sure still how, but I am told that the coil is a cap too even when it is running a galvanic battery. In that patent Tesla refers to this too.

So much to study!!

jeanna

1tesla01

Gary, I dont see where it would make any difference ac rf or dc because of the phase shift.This coil has 2 vortexes, 1 regular the other inverted say figure 8 with the bifilar in the middle.Everything is phase shifted and draws energy from the ambient also.In some instances these coils will vibrate profucely with ac and rf havent tryed it with dc.anything that operates with a wave pattern.This coil strips the waves appart.then you have particals and antiparticals that want to go back to ambient.This is zero and some instanaces below zero trying to come back to a normal sine wave this is pure scalar.Remember we are working on the zero point only.Regards Andy