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Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

Started by Pirate88179, April 09, 2008, 09:43:54 PM

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argona369

Well , I?m not sure about HHO injection, but it does
Sound like a good idea to me in that it could increase octane and
increase combustion efficiency.

The plates are electron reservoirs.
And where any positron production would occur (if possible).

The radioactive decay drive is a linear homopolar motor
Which uses positron production (along with neutron and neutrino production)
And electron annihilation (along with gamma ray production) to create
A one way path for electrons to go through a linear homopolar motor.
As we know, anything that can be a motor can be a generator
And a generator can be a motor. (build the motor first).

The next step is to look at the radioactive decay drive
in inverse generator mode.
Motor= linear motion, neutron, neutrino and gamma  production
generator= inverse motion, positron production,
Neutrino and neutron capture, electron annihilation and, gamma radiation. (if it?s possible).

The next step is to move electrons in one or the other direction
With no return path using a monopolar electrostatic oscillator,
And an electromagnet which switches polarity in relation to
The direction of electron flow. And instead of looking at it as a resonant system
(which just reinforces) to look at the cycles as you would an engine.
This would look like a 2 cycle engine.

Magnetic field interference/reaction is not known at this time.
And this would look like some sort of electron/neutrino/neutron fusion
If possible. and might be adaptable to HHO, I just never looked in that direction.

Take care,

Cliff,


Quote from: resonanceman on May 06, 2008, 12:40:21 PM

I  was wondering  about if it  could be adapted to  efficient HHO production
One of my  projects on my want to do list is a tesla based   electrolizer .
Imagine  a  beaker  of water  placed in the  center of a  fairly  low voltage  tesla coil secondary .
2 sheets of stainless  steel  .......one  longer than the other can be wound into a coil    the  smaller  one  would  have a ground  wire attched .

there would  be a  variable  resistor  on the  ground 

with the   stinless steel   coil  in the  water  ..........the  longer   piece  of steel  will pick up more voltage from the  tesla coil  secondary .


you now  have   a  pair of  electrodes   in water ....... you can  control the  relative  voltage  of the  electrodes with the   resistor  on the ground wire .  .......and the whole thing is in a stong  magnetic field   


now ............my  question  for you 

would  your  electron  shuttle  add to my  idea  if I was to do something  like   put  large plates on each side of my  stainless  coil  and  shuttle   electrons  back and forth?

resonanceman

Quote from: argona369 on May 07, 2008, 02:06:44 PM


The next step is to move electrons in one or the other direction
With no return path using a monopolar electrostatic oscillator,
And an electromagnet which switches polarity in relation to
The direction of electron flow. And instead of looking at it as a resonant system
(which just reinforces) to look at the cycles as you would an engine.
This would look like a 2 cycle engine.



Cliff

I  have only  a very  basic  understanding of your ideas 

The  quote above  confuses me .     
I see an electron  source and an electron sink  and an electromagnet iin between
In that  configuation I can't see how  the  current  direction  would change

I would think that you  would need   a set of caps   between the   source  and  sink and the  electromagnet


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This  is  the URL for a thread I have   have  gotten interested in
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3633.0.html

On the  first post there is a PDF of   progress so far .

If you  have time   to look at it ...........I was wondering  if your  electon shutteling   might  work  in place of  switching  electrodes
It is  low  voltage and self powering .   
I know  your  ideas are intended for  high  voltage ......but the basic  concepts might  still work
.
gary

argona369

Right,
That?s a DC drive (positive energy). (it's gone in different directions,there's a few devices on those pages including the shuttle)
There could be DC generator (free energy/inverse movement),
DC back to back (free energy / no movement/ maybe space distortion),
And AC generator mode (?).

This is at the theoretical research stage, there might be something that I?ve missed.
The basic radioactive design would have to be proven first.
(though the electron shuttle is something of a off shoot, and maybe Tesla's transmitter)
The premise is, ?the magnet can go for the ride in a homopolar?.
No back torque to the magnet, which sounds like the magnetic field is
Not attached to the magnet (though it?s the source) but is part of the
Fabric of space.

the shuttle is in the electromagnet drawing

Added,
Thought you meant the one at the top, the electromagnet one is right.
The electromagnet is ?slaved? to the motor wire so direction of movement would be additive. Hard to say about a return loop on that one at this time.
The (electron) loop  has to be broken (someone once called it
?open path I believe ), the radioactive one is easy compared
To the electromagnetic coil version.

And then there?s ZPE,,,,,


Cliff

Quote from: resonanceman on May 07, 2008, 03:12:43 PM
Quote from: argona369 on May 07, 2008, 02:06:44 PM


The next step is to move electrons in one or the other direction
With no return path using a monopolar electrostatic oscillator,
And an electromagnet which switches polarity in relation to
The direction of electron flow. And instead of looking at it as a resonant system
(which just reinforces) to look at the cycles as you would an engine.
This would look like a 2 cycle engine.



Cliff

I  have only  a very  basic  understanding of your ideas 

The  quote above  confuses me .     
I see an electron  source and an electron sink  and an electromagnet iin between
In that  configuation I can't see how  the  current  direction  would change

I would think that you  would need   a set of caps   between the   source  and  sink and the  electromagnet


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This  is  the URL for a thread I have   have  gotten interested in
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3633.0.html

On the  first post there is a PDF of   progress so far .

If you  have time   to look at it ...........I was wondering  if your  electon shutteling   might  work  in place of  switching  electrodes
It is  low  voltage and self powering .   
I know  your  ideas are intended for  high  voltage ......but the basic  concepts might  still work
.
gary

Pirate88179

@ All:

I don't know if you have seen this.  Hans posted it a while back.  It uses a coil and a small bit of radioactive material to get real electricity.  No moving parts to it at all.  This might fit in with your ideas in this area.

Bill         PS  you might have to download and zoom in to read the parts as labeled.  I had to stay within the 50k limit.
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

kevolts

Hi all my carbon rod got shattered by a lawn mower today (long story) but what I discovered is that the voltage to the carbon to steel is the same about 1.120 vdc but the ma drop significantly from .250 to .050, it seem the more mass you have (at least when it comes to the carbon rod the more ma you can get). I will have to order some more carbon rods (the more mass the better to see if it indeed will give me more ma).

@ Bill if I am correct did you cut your carbon rod in half, was the ma the same when you cut it compared to when it was the full 18?