Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

[Localjoe]

@Jeanna

Jeez im sorry you missed my post about my relay that i built with the diagram in the other thread.  It is just the simple electromagnetic relay design with a little springy metal arm as hans once described also as for me not taking pics, it costs each time i do with the phone and i didnt feel like buying the little adapter for my card. But regardless i was asking your opinion in an effort to come to a consensus while moving forward. In no way was i saying your views were wrong i was just trying to pick apart the key phrases that are being addressed in the patent and i wanted your opinion on my findings.
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[jeanna]

  It is just the simple electromagnetic relay design with a little springy metal arm as hans once described

Joe, I think it is hard to understand when someone hasn't a clue how to put a thing together that a diagram is not sufficient.

It is like handing someone a loom and a picture of the finished cloth and expecting them to know how to put the warp on. They can look up the word warp and see the shuttles and learn what heddles mean, but it just won't get them there without more detail. How-to detail. One step at a time detail. I bought a relay then a few more becausethey were cheap and  I figured someone was going to do one of these and would describe it.( It didn't happen .)

i was just trying to pick apart the key phrases that are being addressed in the patent and i wanted your opinion on my findings.

It is quite possible that he had something extra to make this work.

My opinion about the "practically" part is that if you add water it becomes a self generating (either one) electromagnet or induction coil. And the details of the length of coil thickness of wire and other details that we haven't worked out yet are how to make it work well.

I say "go for it". "try it." see what doesn't work. (I have made 14 coils. Most of them do not work. ) 

Then maybe you or maybe someone else will make one that does work.

[I think ResinRat2's signature about says it all. ]
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[jeanna]

Yaknow Joe,

When you told me of the joule thief I made one

and when you told me of the flash circuit I got a camera and took it apart. I even put some extra secondaries on one of my coils (the one that is broken but was my favorite cuz it gave such strong effects)

If you made a suggestion of a relay circuit where someone gives a "how to" description you KNOW, I'm gonna try it,

so that would help. If you know of such a description, that is.

It might even get me to mess around with relays on the top of one or two of my coils!

jeanna

[jeanna]

The problem  with your spark idea  is  that  sparks require voltage .
The more voltage the  farther  the spark can jump .

to get a spark  with less than a volt  you pretty much have to  rub the  contacts together .

Gary,

Before you joined this thread, I made 2 or 3 Stubblefield type coils that were non galvanic. I had Ideas about investigating what happens in the coil once a charge is going through it.


I used a 2.5 volt battery pack (2 AAA usually going flat) and watched what happened to a galvanometer when I touched the battery leads to the various places. etc.

There were some interesting results. One was that the polarity would get full- or something  in the NS battery. I mean if I hit the leads the same way with the same polarity of the battery the compass would swing a certain way from 3 to 5 times.

Then the effect stopped.

I would have to REVERSE the battery leads.  The compass as galvanometer would swing again, but in the other direction this time for another 3-5 times and stop until I reversed the polarity again.

I always thought this was significant.

I still do which is why I am going into detail right now.

BUT what I want to say about sparks is that when I first reversed  the polarity, most of the time I could actually SEE a spark. It was long enough to see with a 2.5 volt battery pack.

So, I am not so sure that we don't have enough voltage to make a useable spark. The thing is,  it gets hard to control, as you indicated, when they need to be so close that you cannot see them.

I have a tiny spark gap on one of my coils now, but I cannot see a spark if there is one, ......


So, I don't know what is happening since I cannot say there is a spark...


jeanna

You were there as one-

here is the beginning of my reports if you want to review those results

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3500.1520.html

[1tesla01]

@All,           On Teslas(Utilation of Radiation Circuit) he used a timer, a make break circuit And a capacitor.On the energy sucking antenna (a coil of wire,a spark plug a stepup transformer (car coil) And a capacitor .When a make break is introduced in a circuit it becomes ac.Then the frequency goes all over the place.if you have a spark gap, you have amperage this can work with a with a variac also.Each one have different resistance.These were some of my scattered thoughts if you can use any of them.Help your self. Andy