Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

[jeanna]

Storre,

reply to part one:

IT WILL BE OBVIOUS THAT BY REASON OF THE MAGNETIC INDUCTIVE PROPERTIES OF THE COIL-BODY 4 THE CORE-PIECE 1 WILL NECESSARILY BE MAGETIZED WHILE A CURRENT IS GOING THROUGH THE BODY 4, SO THAT THE BATTERY MAY BE USED AS A SELF-GENERATING ELECTROMAGNET, IS FO DESIRED, IT BEING OBSERVED THAT TO SECURE THIS RESULT IS SIMPLY REQUIRED CONNECTING THE EXTENDED TERMINALS OF THE WIRES 5 AND 6 TOGETHER?

So the normally closed reed switch should be connected to terminals 5 and 6!

It is just that if you connect the 5,6 while the meter is clipped to the 10's the thing drops to zero.

so, this it the most important thing to clear up.

I am sure when you make one you will see.

I have 2 reed switches that are N.O. and the 3rd doesn't say.
They are all very tiny. I didn;t see the leads because they were hidden in a tape container .

anyway.

jeanna

[storre]

Hi Jeanna!

The two #10 leads should be left open to preserve the character of the wires as electrodes of the voltaic couple. If you connect them to any load or meter it will cause the voltage to go to zero.

Make sure you use only N.C. reed switches. N.O. will not work at all.

steve

[jeanna]

I see you posted. I am gonna shoot this through anyway

I'm guessing the frequency of this will be relative to the amount of windings on the primary.

I am sooo glad you see it this way. I think I was the only one so far, unless I missunderstood someone (which is very possible)

I would not be so concerned with the meter reading because where you put the meter (what leads are you connecting it to) might cause the circuit to start up. I think either watching the action of the reed switch or putting a secondary winding around the primary and test from the secondary so you are isolated from the primary.

After you wind the primary you have 4 wires sticking up. The ends from where you started are called terminals 10. One is cu one is fe.  The ending of the wires are called terminals 5(copper) and 6(iron) . So 2 wires 4 ends.

He says to leave the 10's open so that is where I try to hook my meter leads. (although there has never been a difference in voltage, cuz they are the same wire.)

I have used a cap to collect the voltage but not add anything. Sometimes there is much less in the cap than in the meter, so you are right that the meter may start something up.

So, with the meter clipped to the terminals called 10 - one cu one fe - I can read some voltage. Now, if I clip the other terminals together, the voltage drops to zero. and stays there. done no more voltage between the wires.

NOW there is probably still voltage somewhere else, like at the core. so it isn't shut down completely. Or maybe it is sposed to be.Tthe core piece is soft iron and meant to "hold" the magnetism for only a moment. If what I used is not soft enough the magnetism will linger too long to flip polarities.

I do think this is where to look. Please build one. I am tired of making them but that is because I made 14. Little ones using $4 copper wire. They are not hard to make.

The secondary is another thing. I have only one coil that shows voltage at the secondary. well readable voltage. All the other secondarys show nothing. zero.

jeanna

[jeanna]

If you connect them to any load or meter it will cause the voltage to go to zero.

Make sure you use only N.C. reed switches. N.O. will not work at all.

steve

Steve,

well no, if I connect them to the meter they read a voltage. same voltage as if I read the 5 and 6. It is when the OTHER 2 are connected, that the voltage drops. This is exactly the reason I tried to see what was there by placing a cap across the 5,6 and walking away for a while.

AND the reason I think you are right about the reed switch.



jeanna

[storre]

The 2 10s are the same wire only if 5 and 6 are connected and the reed switch is closed. Still I think you have to leave the 2 10s open and if you connect a meter to the 2 10s then they are NOT open anymore since the meter will cause them to be a closed circuit.

I think we only need enough voltage to cause the N.C. reed switch to open and if that happens then it will repeat the cycle over and over. This low voltage is pretty useless unless we use it to induct the secondary at a much higher voltage. Similar to trying to clean your driveway with 1 liter per minute of water coming out of a big hose or using the same volume of water but send it through a much smaller hose or hose end. I think NS talked about this also. LV is pretty useless by itself but since we can induct a larger coil wound around it we can use the same volume of electrons under higher pressure and do more work with the same amount of water (i mean electrons) :-)

I don't see the core as holding the magnetism but acting more like a flywheel for the electron vortex. It keeps the flow more stable and acts as a type of battery.

If you want to monitor your results using this reed switch design then the only way is to measure the ac voltage of the secondary. You can't mess with the primary anymore than what he describes or you will divorce the voltaic couple

And to answer your other post. Yes if you will get a voltage from 10 and 10 just as you get from 5 and 6 but that is because of the different metals. He is only using the different metals to create enough voltage to create the electromagnet and then using the electromagnet energy to disconnect 5 and 6 and start the cycle over and over. That is why it ends up being an ac coil. I think we have to forget about measuring the voltage in the primary because doing so messes up the primaries purpose as a self energizing electromagnet.

BTW, I recall reading earlier that you are a musician(?) or am I confusing you with someone else? Me too and it's good to see more musicians in this other related field of energy :-)

Oh and I think you will only see a voltage in the secondary if you have the pumping action going on in the primary by making and breaking leads 5 and 6 very quickly with the reed switch. BTW, does the patent say how many windings the secondary has in relation to the primary? 1 to 10? 1 to 100?