Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

[jeanna]

Gary,

I've been thinking about this electromagnet thing. I don't know how it could ever pick up anything.

Because it goes wonking back and forth being an electromagnet one microsecond and an induction coil the next microsecond.

It isn't even that it doesn't have the power. Perhaps it does - or doesn't. It happens way too fast to show any effects.

In fact effects of either...

Either the electromagnet or the induction coil.

But like the LED that looks like a solid light. We know it flashes because we made it that way with the joule thief (or whatever).

This battery generator is making something so fast we aren't even able to sense what it is with our tools.

We don't even know how to catch it or where.

It is not the galvanic thing. We are told that. It only uses that to get this other thing started.

And this other thing is moving really fast between 2 states. Each state reverses the other.

All we need to do is capture the electricity as it goes whizzing past.

And, I have to think it goes in both directions.

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With dc the strawberries must go from one place to the other.

with ac they only need to peek their sweet noses out of the wire and duck back. out then in. The faster they do this the faster the frequency is.

I am not sure of this but maybe the FARTHER they peek out the higher the voltage.
I really can't say what ac voltage is.
It relates to magnetism directly but this peeking out is the closest I can get to understanding it. and I am not sure.

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So, what did I collect? was it  strawberries noses sticking out on one side and leaves and stems sticking out on the other ...0.72vdc each way?

hmmm

jeanna

[Pirate88179]

@ Jeanna and all:

I was just thinking... (dangerous) remember that picture Hans posted of the box of Stubblefield batteries?  OK.
What if he had all of those wired in series and used that energy to open and close the reed switch?  It just occurred to me that this might be a possible answer.  Maybe one will not do it.  Maybe, he had to wire all, or some, of those in series, and maybe the rest in parallel? Just thinking out loud.

Bill

PS  For the newer folks, I can repost the photo I am speaking of if requested.

[jeanna]

What if he had all of those wired in series

Bill you are completely correct.

From the brochure (only the first page available so far)

"When coil or cell is placed in jar as seen in fig 2, a practically constant electromotive force of something less than 1 volt is the output, the coil being practically free from polarization effect common with most types of battery, (cell as shown in fig 2 may be connected up in series to obtain any required voltage)"

He promisses some explanation about gaining from being in the earth etc.

But the fact is that he is talking about what WE are calling the primary. This thing may be connected in series and does not polarize.

This is what gives me the confidence to claim that what I collected came from the dual action I described before even in a jar of water and without a secondary.

Basically we already have overunity here because this generator does not need to be recharged.

Oh my, I hope we can get a look at the brochure.

jeanna

[Pirate88179]

@ Jeanna:

In regards to OU, I thought we already had it when we built these coils and when dry....had measurable output.  some say..."That's just galvanic....etc..." but, these were dry!!!!!  Even .35 vdc as low as it is represents .35vdc more than we put into the system correct?  I think these are OU devices as they are.  But, that's just me.  I have also had people ask "well how much was the wire, and how long did you spend winding the coils...you have to count that."  This is where I had the conversation with Hans about what is, and is not OU.  I look at my coil in the ground just putting out volts and amps (OK mA's) and it does not ask for a thing from me.  If this is not OU then I guess I don't know what is.

"To obtain any required voltage."  would this possibly mean the required voltage to operate the reed make/break system?

Old Stubblefield had more going on than the language in the patent might suggest. (My opinion)

Bill

[jeanna]

@ Jeanna:

In regards to OU,

I guess you must consider how with any galvanic battery the negative metal gets placed onto the positive electrode and it is called corrosion. (I think I have those directions right)

But since there is NO CORROSION on this thing, I have the desire to call it ou. It is the corrosion that is what makes a lead acid battery finally give up.

There is also the part where we should never need to 'recharge' this because half of its life is spent recharging itself (I guess I should use his words It doesn't get polarized)

[also, there is no corrosion in non-acidulated soil. I guess he must have tried to add vinegar and maybe found it ruined the battery.]

"To obtain any required voltage."  would this possibly mean the required voltage to operate the reed make/break system?

perhaps, but I don't think it is necessarily that meaning. The required voltage to do something that takes voltage -is how I read this.

Old Stubblefield had more going on than the language in the patent might suggest. (My opinion)

I think we just don't have his instructions. It was and is novel. No one ever paid any attention to him so there was never a heritage of his designs.

Look at the cell phone sitting on top of a horse drawn carriage! Even 25 years ago they were arguing about whether or not NS invented radio. No one ever mentioned cell phones because they hadn't been put into use yet!!

I hope we will be able to read that brochure.

jeanna