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infinity transformer, no back-emf transformer

Started by shimondoodkin, April 16, 2008, 11:37:05 AM

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resonanceman


Quote from: gyulasun on April 17, 2008, 12:09:28 PM
hi shimondoodkin,

have a look at this link:

http://www.amasci.com/elect/mcoils.html      a similar conception?






Does anyone  know  of anyone  that  has  tried to  make a  motor  by  switching  B field flux ? 

figure  13 in the URL in the quote

gary

helmut

Quote from: gyulasun on April 17, 2008, 12:09:28 PM
hi shimondoodkin,

have a look at this link:

http://www.amasci.com/elect/mcoils.html      a similar conception?




Hi Gyulasun
Very good source.
Thanks
helmut

gyulasun

Quote from: resonanceman on April 17, 2008, 01:39:54 PM
Quote from: gyulasun on April 17, 2008, 12:09:28 PM
hi shimondoodkin,

have a look at this link:

http://www.amasci.com/elect/mcoils.html      a similar conception?


Does anyone  know of a source  of  high  mu  wire  like   they talk about in this link?

gary

Hi Gary,  if you could obtain pvc coated soft iron wire, that would serve well for some experiment. You could form a longer bundle of core from several iron wires run in parallel, the thickness of the bundle is of your choice or maybe coil bobbin/form.   Soft iron usualy has a permeability of at least some hundred or so.  PVC coating is a must to prevent eddy currents between the parallel turns just like in case of laminations.

China is a big supplier of cheap wires but if you google for 'pvc coated iron wire', you may find locally in hardware stores at gardening/fence stuffs. A Chinese source is like this: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/204434420/Fine_Quality_PVC_Coated_Wire.html  or  http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/204301967/PVC_coated_iron_wire.html   to see what I mean.  It is good you have got a small magnet with you when buying around in hardware stores  ;)

This seems to be the cheapest but still a good way for exploring either your or the link's ideas, I have not done it yet.

rgds, Gyula

resonanceman

Quote from: gyulasun on April 17, 2008, 05:59:04 PM


Hi Gary,  if you could obtain pvc coated soft iron wire, that would serve well for some experiment. You could form a longer bundle of core from several iron wires run in parallel, the thickness of the bundle is of your choice or maybe coil bobbin/form.   Soft iron usualy has a permeability of at least some hundred or so.  PVC coating is a must to prevent eddy currents between the parallel turns just like in case of laminations.

China is a big supplier of cheap wires but if you google for 'pvc coated iron wire', you may find locally in hardware stores at gardening/fence stuffs. A Chinese source is like this: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/204434420/Fine_Quality_PVC_Coated_Wire.html  or  http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/204301967/PVC_coated_iron_wire.html   to see what I mean.  It is good you have got a small magnet with you when buying around in hardware stores  ;)

This seems to be the cheapest but still a good way for exploring either your or the link's ideas, I have not done it yet.

rgds, Gyula

Thanks  Gyula

I  have a few pounds  of  iron wire  for tying rebar with .......I  was thinking that  painting it would  be a pretty  good insulation . ....... maybe  not as good as PVC  but hopefully  good enough to  play with a little while

I will have to think about  the best way to make a motor   ....... I really like the  idea  of being able to  shut off the  b field flow by  oversaturating   the   wire .   
Control   over the  field coils with  ZERO contact   and ZERO  electronics


gary

shimondoodkin

wow thanks for link it is amazing

i think in fig 8 there is no flow because thereÃ,  is only a 90 degrees force redirection and no force atÃ,  0 degres
this also a good feature to insert in to a magnetic filed an inductor being undetected
and then to introduce it to the system with large torque. to create no load generator.


http://www.amasci.com/elect/mcoils.html
fig 13 may interesting to TPU dreamers
it says that when you put a magnet on it it makes a core to become non-magnetically-conductive because of saturation and the transformer does not work then, while it is saturated. and that the opening of this switch reduces the inductance of the iron ring, and causes the primary to draw an enormous current. also BREAKING THE CIRUICT PRODUCES A "SHORT CIRCUIT" EFFECT!

maybe such magnetic switch can be made by DC wire aroundÃ,  the core.
and (not sure:)
i saw in a patent that there are holes in the center of a core so maybe it switches off just a half of a core(in the width)
to produce waves. - in a toroid with 4 holes symmetrical
it does in a sequence:
two upper parallel on
two upper parallel off
other two lower parallel on
other two lower parallel off
and the same sequence goes again. maybe it produces some fluctuations in the filed.