Feynman makes a Bedini Motor

[Evil Roy Slade]

@WilbyInebriated

I refer you to http://www.keelynet.com/bedmot/bedpress.htm

I assume this press release was authorised by Mr Bedini. There doesn't seem to be a retraction of the claims anywhere, although I haven't searched extensively so may have missed it.

ERS

[canuck22]

not really wanting to move you all away fom your bickering.......

feynman how goes the build?

[Evil Roy Slade]

Hi Ren,

My definition of overunity is that more energy can be extracted from a device than is input. The input energy is measured by quantity, not its cost.

So although the input energy may be free in cost terms, e.g. Wind, the energy input is not zero in quantum terms. BTW The efficiency of extracting power from the wind has an upper limit of 59%, the Betts Limit.

I haven't seen every device ever built quite obviously, so my own narrow view of the world is the only thing I am going on. Feel free to point me in the direction of an OU device that has had some independent testing done on it.

My background and what I have built, or not, is of no relevance. I am challenging the claims of Mr Bedini and haven't put forth my own. If and when I do then please challenge me as much as you like. I would expect no less.

You have built 9 of Mr Bedini's devices?. Are you in fact claiming to have an overunity device? Or were the devices underunity battery chargers? Sorry for the confusion on my part.


@Feynman

I apologise for hijacking your thread. It was inconsiderate of me. Let me know if you prefer this
tangential debate be taken elsewhere.

ERS

[tinu]

...
If you are saying OU has never been proven, EVER, then I ask where all your documentation is from the beginning of time regarding every device/concept ever built?

Can you honestly say you have studied and explored all avenues to the letter, or are you just saying you havent heard/seen it proven?

Now and then I still let a stone drop and watch it.
Nope, I haven?t explored all avenues? Too many stones.
Neither have I kept much documentation about falling stones.
Maybe the next one will levitate or even ?fall upward?. Who really knows?!
In fact, I know for sure it will do so. I?ve heard one saying that one witnessed it. I guess it happened to me too; but it was a long time ago ? I forgot how I did it. Just trust me. Post 25 pictures of your stones with your username on them and maybe, just maybe, I?ll remember how I did it. Don?t ask me to prove it; that?s impertinence! 
(Now: where is that thread about OU falling stones? )

Cheers,
Tinu

[WilbyInebriated]

My background and what I have built, or not, is of no relevance. I am challenging the claims of Mr Bedini and haven't put forth my own. If and when I do then please challenge me as much as you like. I would expect no less.

so you still maintain the these "claims" are made by john even though by your own words you have no evidence to back up this statement that it's john himself making these claims. in fact, you admit to making an assumption about it all. it's asinine for you to call out john and "challenge" him on a claim he has never made wouldn't you say? on that note, the "press release" you linked says, and i quote "...according to sources..." do you have some evidence that john was one of these sources? you think he should retract a claim that he didn't make? how exactly does one do that? ren was right, this is good for some laughs...

independent testing? yeah... that's called building one yourself. see then you can do the experiment just how you want. your own quality control, your own measurements, etc.

naw don't actually build something you might lose your