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Young Bangladeshi Scientist's success story Power generation without fuel

Started by steve_chow, April 20, 2008, 03:59:21 AM

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jibbguy

The energy from heat created by the compression of air... There is no solar cause of this heat, it comes simply from compression.  When added to the energy of the compressed air itself, it is COP> 1 . We don't have to utilize the heat for it to still exist as fact. And there only needs to be one instance for the law to be clearly broken... When things are so rigid, they are also brittle  ;)

Its not that people feel the Law will be utterly broken by free energy devices. It is that the UNOBSERVED energy in the system will balance the equation. But since the dogma of mainstream science refuses to study these unobservable energy sources (openly at least), then they are claimed to "not exist". And the Law is used as some sort of "ultimate weapon" to answer every anomalous problem that comes around with "unquestionable" denial.  So showing that the Law is not immutable, will eventually cause others to question the other things in science they held to be sacrosanct, too.

My understanding of science is obviously different than yours... I thank God for this. A questioning mind will see things that have been deliberately and carefully shrouded from the unquestioning. I'm not afraid to look behind the curtain; i took the red pill. I know that this world is chock-full of things i don't know about, that a very small percentage know about... And that the reality is very different than what is projected on our screens. It would often be comforting to be so sure of things with such unshakable certainty.... But i guess thats not for me any more. 

To call all those inventors frauds or crackpots shows this: Either the accuser is unaware of their work and simply giving a knee jerk conditioned reaction, or they are pursuing an agenda and being disingenuous. Because they certainly do not have personal knowledge of this. In any case, it is NOT the "scientific method" they claim to be "protecting"... And unworthy of serious debate.     

Joh70

jibbguy wrote: "There is no solar cause of this heat, it comes simply from compression"

As i know, an air-condition, which can also be used as heater for a room, and known to be more efficient than 100% takes its extra energy from the air outside around the house to heat the room inside.

because air outside is far away to be at absolute 0 like in Space (vacuum). in opposite to solar-cells the air outside is a huge sun-collector (the atmosphere) which deliveres its energy (temperature) day and night.

This should be true, because of the fact, efficiency decreases significantly (falls under 100%) when temperature outside get too coold (under 5-10?C).

A self-runner should be possible. But i think, there is still no efficient process for conversion heat to pump work, which could be paid and maintained from the air-condition-supplier. But MPI wants to do that (see above) and other try to use environmental-temperatures (stearling?, etc.).

Joh70

has anyone new pictures or video or information about this bangladesh-transformer?

pennies_everywhere

jibbguy, your statements imply a gross ignorance of basic physics.  You celebrate your ignorance and superstitious beliefs.  You are free to remain as ignorant and superstitious as you like.  You can adhere to nutty conspiracy theories all you like.  You can actively choose to ignore established facts all you like.  Deliberate ignorance, superstition, and belief in non-existant conpiracies will not bring you free energy.  They will not reveal "hidden energy".  They will not make the phony claims pitched by free energy charlatans true.  Should you choose to invest in their phony claims, your superstitions and poor judgement will however lighten your wallet.

Quote from: jibbguy on June 20, 2008, 10:08:14 AM
The energy from heat created by the compression of air... There is no solar cause of this heat, it comes simply from compression.  When added to the energy of the compressed air itself, it is COP> 1 . We don't have to utilize the heat for it to still exist as fact. And there only needs to be one instance for the law to be clearly broken... When things are so rigid, they are also brittle  ;)

Its not that people feel the Law will be utterly broken by free energy devices. It is that the UNOBSERVED energy in the system will balance the equation. But since the dogma of mainstream science refuses to study these unobservable energy sources (openly at least), then they are claimed to "not exist". And the Law is used as some sort of "ultimate weapon" to answer every anomalous problem that comes around with "unquestionable" denial.  So showing that the Law is not immutable, will eventually cause others to question the other things in science they held to be sacrosanct, too.

My understanding of science is obviously different than yours... I thank God for this. A questioning mind will see things that have been deliberately and carefully shrouded from the unquestioning. I'm not afraid to look behind the curtain; i took the red pill. I know that this world is chock-full of things i don't know about, that a very small percentage know about... And that the reality is very different than what is projected on our screens. It would often be comforting to be so sure of things with such unshakable certainty.... But i guess thats not for me any more. 

To call all those inventors frauds or crackpots shows this: Either the accuser is unaware of their work and simply giving a knee jerk conditioned reaction, or they are pursuing an agenda and being disingenuous. Because they certainly do not have personal knowledge of this. In any case, it is NOT the "scientific method" they claim to be "protecting"... And unworthy of serious debate.     

jibbguy

i am always amused, and curious, when a debate opponent faced with a difficult reply reacts with personal attack instead of an actual counter argument based on points of fact and reason (...the proverbial crickets are still chirping while we wait to hear why air compressors and the thermal differential caused by them do not break the First Law)... Do these people really think ad hominem attacks answer anything? But then again; that supposes that they are interested in honest debate in the first place; and not just trying to force an agenda by any means possible... As if it were their "job" to do so. Perhaps if that is the case, then it's time to find another line of work.

Conspiracies: They exist as fact everywhere, every year thousands of persons are convicted of exactly that in our courts. The Continental Congress of 1776 was a conspiracy. Man is a conspiratorial creature. And trying to use the term as a simple argument in itself against those who can't be intimidated; just like using ad honinem attack... Is like peeing up a rope: It doesn't become any easier, nor less uncomfortable, no matter how many times it is tried ;)