Young Bangladeshi Scientist's success story Power generation without fuel

[pennies_everywhere]

@allcanadian the issue of debate is whether it is reasonable to declare Kachi's claims false or not without a detailed direct investigation as jibbguy claims is necessary.  Kachi provides no evidence of any scientific discovery.  There is therefore no scientific discovery to debate.

Kachi presents no evidence to show that his device produces free energy.  He has a very large box that can store a battery many many times larger than needed to conduct his demonstrations.  Kachi's demonstration is easily matched by a $30. UPS.  The burden is Kachi's to support his claims.  He hasn't.  They can therefore be safely disregarded as false.  End of story.

I find it amusing that you misquote me and mischaracterize my postings as part of a lecture of the virtues of respect.  Doctor, heal thyself.

@pennies_everywhere
LOL, I remember a time when I had your confidence and everything was right in my world and this time was truely blissful. But your logic has one serious flaw, to state something is "impossible" -- to say something cannot be done is to deny both individualism and evolution. I am not you nor am I any scientist of the last 200 years as such I am not bound by your opinions nor your beliefs. I would agree it is very unlikely the COE will be violated anytime soon if ever but remember our "science" is only a couple hundred years old and look how far we have come. To believe tommorrow or in one thousand years your opinions must still hold true is to declare yourself a "god" among men which you are not nor am I. All I can tell you is I started succeeding in things you say cannot be done the moment I started respecting others opinions --- not believing them whole heartedly but giving them due consideration as another perspective.

[jibbguy]

...What if we melted down the quarters, and sold the metal ?....

[allcanadian]

@utilitarian

For example, we all know that 2 plus 2 is 4.  We do not have to try to prove this every time we do any type of math.  And if someone sat all day trying to prove that 2 plus 2 is not 4, well, that person is just wasting his time.

But in this case we are speaking of energy not numbers nor pocket change, if you always built the same devices in the same way you can expect the same results. However if one were to build devices with due regard to the fact that all all energy systems are open systems and that energy is truely conservative ie.. it cannot be created nor destroyed only change in form, then 2+2 can equal 10 as I could use one of the 2's four times. Simple math is not a natural process, it is not energy, you cannot describe our universe with simple numbers and equations.

@ pennies_everywhere

@allcanadian the issue of debate is whether it is reasonable to declare Kachi's claims false or not without a detailed direct investigation as jibbguy claims is necessary.  Kachi provides no evidence of any scientific discovery.  There is therefore no scientific discovery to debate.
Kachi presents no evidence to show that his device produces free energy.  He has a very large box that can store a battery many many times larger than needed to conduct his demonstrations.  Kachi's demonstration is easily matched by a $30. UPS.  The burden is Kachi's to support his claims.  He hasn't.  They can therefore be safely disregarded as false.  End of story.

You seem to imply that you or others "knowing" --having facts-- as to whether Kachi's device is real or not can effect the "reality" of whether it is real or not. ie.....

--Kachi provides no evidence of any scientific discovery.  There is therefore no scientific discovery to debate.

Says who ? ------ you?------- can you prove there is no scientific discovery to debate?

The burden is Kachi's to support his claims.  He hasn't.  They can therefore be safely disregarded as false.  End of story

LOL  He doesn't have to support anything, he made a claim , you can believe it or not------- but your believing cannot change the facts.

[Grumpy]

@ Pennies

If energy an not be created or destroyed, then how did this energy come to be in the first place?

If Steven Mark's device was powered by a battery why did the Atomic Energy Comission come talk to him?

[pennies_everywhere]

@allcanadian, I don't imply.  I state flat-out:  When someone wishes to challenge well evidenced beliefs, it is the claimant's burden to supply credible, and verifiable evidence.  Kachi's demonstration does none of that.

Arguing that any arbitrary claim is worthy of study simply because someone makes it, is complete foolishness.  You might as well waste time debating the existance of Mary Yugo's very shy invisible flying pink unicorn, world government psychotronic mind control beams, etc, etc. 

@ pennies_everywhere
You seem to imply that you or others "knowing" --having facts-- as to whether Kachi's device is real or not can effect the "reality" of whether it is real or not. ie.....Says who ? ------ you?------- can you prove there is no scientific discovery to debate?LOL  He doesn't have to support anything, he made a claim , you can believe it or not------- but your believing cannot change the facts.