Roll on the 20th June

[MrKai]

First, let me say that I am not an Archer apologist however.... if you squint at his graphic at the top of the page it shows a 1 meter short arm and a 10 meter long arm or 10:1 mechanical advantage and 1.2 kg will lift the 10 kg so he is correct. I think what he was saying is that the one meter arm travels through a 2 meter arc.

Dude...I think you just made at least one enemy here by pointing out that one of archers detractors re-interpreted Archer's drawing thingee to make him wrong...and by then saying that if you go by what he actually drew, his weight assertions are correct.

As I know you are, in fact, in no way an Archerite/Archer Apologist, you have just crossed a line that I think ill be real, real interesting.

Like I said a page or so back, confirmation bias is a bitch, and it goes both ways.

My God Have Mercy on your Posts

[MrKai]

We are all here for different reasons, what makes you think that your reason for being here is the correct one?

It is clear from your post that you do not understand the benefits of a debate. It sounds like you have the same ideology as the crazy Christian crowd. You know the ones...the guys that locked up Galileo! Remember how well that one turned out?

So let me get this straight, if this was your forum you would remove the voices of reason in this thread?

If you play your cards right tbnz, maybe Archer will give you a signed copy of his favorite undies.



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Newt...I seriously think this is uncalled for and over the line. Archer is supposed to be the erratic, crazy hate-bater. This post right here is just childish, stupid and quite frankly a bit surprising. You took the time to composite autographed underwear! I mean...seriously...

It is like clanzer said...I don't know why you and the rest of your lot have decided to attack the people that are trying to do this Archer thing...attacking him and his flawed(?) math and at best, specious(?) understanding of physics is more than enough.

It seems now that you have gone beyond shaking your head at these "poor, misguided fools" and have decided to wage war against *them* too.

I mean, if someone spends their time and money on a dud machine, is that not...punishment enough from the Absolute, Unchallengeable Truth that is Newtonian Physics, backed by the sword of the Laws of Thermodynamics?

-K

[Groundloop]

@exnihiloest,

"The force needed to rotate the wheel is zero because you use eight magnets and place 7 blocks under the wheel in a circle. In this case the law of conservation is busted because you get a net input of energy from the gravity field".

There is no logic in this assertion and the last sentence is a tautology.
You should do the maths and/or the experiment, and keep us informed. Thanks.

I have tested the case of 8 magnets on a rotor vs 7 soft iron coils (stators) by
doing actual experiments and I can confirm that this method works.

If you want to make a wind mill generator then you want the fan blades to
turn in light wind also. If you use the same number of magnets on the rotor
as you have cored coils on the stator then the magnet will stick so hard to
the stators that you fan is as "glued" not to move.

English is not my first language but I will try to explain. In a odd setup, each
magnet will try to attached two different cores on each side with the same
force, thus canceling out the "glue" effect.

In my drawing above I tried to show that we must use an odd number of levers
under the rotor so that the "sticky" effect is canceled. Then we just have to use
a very low energy to rotate a new magnet over the lever magnet. The magnet
over the lever will then aid in lifting the lever. When the magnet is shifted sideways
out of reach of the magnet on the lever block, the lever goes down again. Since we
use very little power turning the rotor (not counting bearing friction etc.) then the
only sourche of lift is from the two magnets interacting. The gravity will then regauge
the lever down again after we remove the magnet from the lever. Since it is gravity
that force the leverage down then it must be gravity we get the energy from because
we can't get and energy from magnets interacting, according to sience.

I must add that the leverage is balanced so that the big block is down when no magnet
is lifting. Both blocks are glued to the leverage.

Groundloop.

[CLaNZeR]

Another quick update this end.

Brass did not turn up today so could not make my links for the weights.

Did manage to get the stator magnets mounted and also have to now place it on a bit of wood as the base as do not have a big enough piece of Polycarbonate. Had to double the Rotor Arm magnets to get the strength correct.

One thing is very apparent as others have said the middle bearing receives a lot of pressure from the bottom row of stator magnets and I think I may have to change this to a tougher design. Or may shorten the brass arms to reduce the weight and drop back to single Rotor magnets on the arms.







More updates soon

Cheers

Sean.

[Bulbz]

Looking good CLaNZeR  .