Roll on the 20th June

[oak]

(Here's what Archer sent me when he couldn't post earlier -- I didn't want to post it all without further clarification from him.  All in this post after this sentence is Archer's.)

there was a picture drawn of the dam wheel described on the site with a question, the answer is, you only put in one hundred kilos lift from 7 to 1, yet you keep thinking your power down is 100 kilos, your power is the ten ton wheel you just turned with a minimum torque at friction point of one ton. it does not matter what the math says, that wheel in the story is connected to a high powered generator like any hydro station, and if the wheel turns so does the generator.

work backwards, do you think a zero weight wheel that only has the two guys can possibly turn a hydroelectric generator??? if you believe newton the answer is yes and would be false, even if both stood on the end of a zero weight turbine they could not break the 1 ton torque of start point friction could they?ever?, but according also to newton, with the ten ton wheel the only added power is the guy on the end, yet it does break the 1 ton torque start point.

which for newton to be correct could not happen, or as in the story, the car tyre cannot turn.

so if weight on the end of the arm is equal only to that weight x gravity and distance bullshit bullshit bullshit, how is it my ten ton turbine can move with 100kgs and newtons cannot?

existing environment!!!!!!.

go back to the helium ballon, when all exists and all is built but the straw that breaks the camels back, then you only need take your cup.

man has spent endless hours trying to build a new machine that does something different, when the machine was always there since the first gravity controlled generator, the hydro, it showed us in times of low water flow, it still turned. i simply took it back to the edge of the start point and added 100 kgs to tip it into rolling again.

for those who cannot understand why i destroyed the first machine, i did not want be responsible for all the death in the arab countries that will follow with nothing to contrbute to the world, starvation for the already poor will be almost instaneous as the weathly set out to protect what they have knowing there is no more to come.

Then i saw the pictures of the wealth if dubai and decided that i was not resposible for the poor management of that wealth and the lack of infrastructure for the people overidden by the dcadence of one city that makes new york look like a slum. 

make no mistake, people are writing that i am claiminmg to be some saviour, i come to destory what is, not fucking save this pile of shit you call civilization.
this planet is fucked, i simply want a new one.

I nicknamed the machine the way i did for that reason, otherwise i would have called it the fucking fluffy bunny slippers happy ending machine.

for those who cant wait if you were to copy and paste this thread and the site even as it is now, you should still get it even if something did happen to me.

if you dont understand the dam wheel working with a ton weight verses newtons zero weight wheel not being able to do the job even though according to his laws, 100 kgs x gravity is the same power. then you will only be copying the machine not understanding why.

[oak]

By the way Sean, I could be wrong, but I think the weights in the photo are the same size as each other, but the camera is not being held directly above them (but at an angle) so they appear to be of different sizes.

[exxcomm0n]

Oh SH..............ugar!

We're (I'm) still missing something and on the build page he says it SPECIFICALLY!

The rear of the floor plate will be heavily weighted to counter the weight of the arms which ride over each other protruding forward, it is "NOT" a spoke wheel where arms join in the centre.

Now the thing to think about (for me) is if the arm travels a full 360 degrees, or if it's even going to be  near the center.

So........he's said that gravity pulls both FORWARD and down, and the tubes protrude forward

(I REALLY need to look @ this like a test and read the instructions first. It's like the test in school that starts "Read the instructions COMPLETELY before starting!", having a paragraph of instructions telling you put circles and arrows all over the page ending with the sentence, "Disregard all the previous instructions and write your name in the upper right hand corner and give the test to the teacher".)
For all intensive purposes, it IS a test that gets graded in front of the class June 20th.

I challenge myself to completely read everything he's said, take notes of everything I deem pertinent to the device, and then experiment for a day. If I get no results go back and read again to see if I think I missed anything and go experiment for a day again no matter if I found something or not.

Now to find a circular eraser and some toothpicks or some pixie stix (american powdered sugar candy sold in a tube) and a pin wheel.
I think there'll be hinges involved too.

I have to get back to reading!

[Side note: About the idea of the wheel at 45 degrees. That has possibilities.

[The Eskimo Quinn]

I feel at this point i should again point out you have evreything bar one item, the satellite effect and the reason the machine worls so easily i must say although i have not tried it, torquee says what you have should work without it. it is one of those logic puzzles i just see, but was after i had built the first one.

But you must remember this is the missing point, go back to the poor old satellite trying to hit the earth but can't quite get there, be being pulled "all" the time to fall. unfortunately if you get this i won't confirm it until the 20th, but you need this key.

all the worlds a stage?

all the world's a flea circus, and the planet need to scratch.

[Dusty]

What if the rods are stainless tubing and the discs are aluminum and a magnet slides back and forth within each tube.  I'm thinking it works off of eddy current drag, as in the magnet moves slow while
going past the aluminum area then speeds up once past that area to get to the other side.  These three tubes would be arranged in the asterisk symmetrical formation.

I'm sure you all have played around with dropping a magnet down a copper or aluminum tube.  It seems like anti-gravity watching it take so long for the magnet to get through to the other side, but it's  just eddy current drag.

I don't know about my idea, just a guess.