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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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MrKai

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on June 04, 2008, 11:44:16 PM
Hi ex, trying to upload vids to utube as we speak...

Thank you.

-K
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MrKai

Quote from: exxcomm0n on June 04, 2008, 11:51:01 PM
Because usually they go bang and launch a projectile.

You're trying to equate self mutilation with experimentation. I'm not saying that experimenting is safe, but some are more hazardous than others.

So....dabbling in the build and things is hazardous to my continued being? I hardly see why the action to prove or disprove leverage is to be considered as "dead" a certainty as shooting yourself in the face.

Now......have we thrashed this one enough, or can I have another laugh at your expense?

There still were other questions, weren't there?

If those are the conclusions you drew from this exchange, then, I honestly have to say, you leave me scratching my head, man.

It seemed like you got it...so, yeah, in summary, the reasoning the skeptical physics dudes have for not building these things is the same as yours, although you've done a fine job of dancing around it...which shows you certainly aren't dimwitted.

Just misguided.

They know better. Or at least, they are reasonably certain that the machine will not work (like your gun usually going bang, history has shown us that these types of machines don't work. Fair is Fair.) and "know better".

Personally, I think they are getting a bit too smug, crossing into righteousness. This smacks of religion and that is a problem to me.

I sincerely hope that AQ does rig something that puts a bit of doubt out there in a positive way...as opposed to the flavor of doubt we're used to...

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exxcomm0n

Quote from: MrKai on June 04, 2008, 11:52:24 PM
Thank you.

-K

This is your abdication from any other reasoning?

All because the principle cause in all this deigns to "recognize" me in a public forum?

I'm a bit flattered actually since he never pointed to my ideas or examples in all this time. I have had a private email from him pretty much prodding me to recognize the soapz invitation that I thought was spam. Maybe another one, but it wasn't inviting me the The Mighty Quinn weekend barbecue or anything like that.

Why after all this time I get addressed, I don't care.

I have always voiced my opinion that he had the right to voice his.

I stood up to possible immolation for it.

And while having to get hints and help from other builders to accomplish anything close to the wheel, I took it upon myself to try.

Maybe it's because he grants his respect the same way I do mine.

I may not agree with Archer.

I may not like how he relates data and explains himself and his concepts when agitated.

I may be pretty embarrassed on the 20th if he doesn't come through.

But if you take that as a reason to discount anything I say or ask, it's your right.

Why shouldn't you retreat into smug condescension again?

It keeps you from answering any other question I asked.

Whether Archer is a genius, an actor, a nutcase, or a con man, after following this thread since it's beginning, he has my respect for coming back to "theoretical discourse" like this.

And you.........still have yet to answer the rest of my questions, even when I was nice and finally answered yours the way you wanted.

Would you now, please? Can you remember them?

I'd retrieve the post listing but"User 'hartiberlin1' has exceeded the 'max_questions' resource (current value: 100000)"

Dude needs to massage either his php.ini or MySQL DB.
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fletcher

This should be interesting - as people try to replicate quinns beam experiment from the information in the video, real world & simulation, to get OU & not simply another leverage device.

jratcliff

Sigh, Archer, please listen.

The only 'proof' of your device is going to be a working device.  The only proof of a working device is in replication.  To date your explanations have been cryptic, vague, and you veer off on tangents that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

You don't provide videos, blue-prints, or diagrams to 'prove' anything.  You provide them so that the device can be replicated.  Can you understand this little thing?

It does no good for you to call people names, or even for other people to call you names.  None of that matters one tiny bit.  The only thing that matters is providing an easily replicable over-unity machine.

You got people interested with your gravity wheel with magnetic assist idea.  It was simple to think about and straightforward to build.  People on these forums are trying to build that device even though you have yet to provide adequate information on how to do so.  I hope they aren't all wasting their time in the efforts.

The reason I worry most about them wasting their time is because you, yourself, have not built such a machine!  Originally you said you were going to then you started going off on wild tangents about levers, siphons, and cursing the world.  None of this has anything to do with the original project to begin.

Dear God man FOCUS!

Build a wheel, video tape it, document it, produce over-unity, and share it with the world.

The *only* reason you are receiving all of this publicity is because you made such an audacious claim to begin with.  Today the attention you are receiving is entirely negative because you have become entirely negative.  Cursing the world, calling people names, and ranting and raving on off topic subjects is really not helping in the least.

Take a deep breath Archer.

Build your machine.

Release videos, blue-prints, documents, and detailed information on how to reproduce it.  Work with Clanzer and others on this forum to get a reproducible device.  Don't rant, rave, curse, or go off on wild tangents.

Don't invite people to your house to investigate your machines.  To be frank, at this point, you scare most people.

Just build it, release it, and take complete and total satisfaction in the distribution of an OU device that will change the world.

How much more satisfying is that than cursing at people?

I am not an 'oil man' in any other sense than I have to use oil to fuel my car.  I am not a 'Newtonian' in any other way than the fact that Newtonian physics seems to behave correctly around me most of the time.

We all want over-unity to work.  Get that?  Even the skeptics, the haters, the baiters, and the everyone else wants over-unity to work.  We may not believe in it.  We may even believe it is impossible.  But, still, just as we all would like to hope there is a tooth fairy when we are young, we would like to imagine a miraculous invention that breaks us free from the tyranny of energy dependence.

Archer, just refocus yourself.  Build the wheel.  Not the lever.  Not the siphon. Do not rant, rave, curse, or invite strangers to your house.  Just build the wheel.

You are the one who claimed you would change the world on June the 20th but, here it is today just June 5, and you seem to have given up entirely on your original project. 

I may be one of the biggest skeptics in the room but, let me assure you, a simple device that can be easily reproduced by the general public would convince me above and beyond any number of personal attacks or rambling dissertations.

Refocus Archer, get back to work.....

John

P.S. Stop cursing, be nice, be polite, and use a spell checker and, most of all, don't ever expect anyone to believe one word you say until the device has been replicated by the likes of Clanzer and, even then, it will be an uphill battle to convince the world until the average person can build one in kit form in their own garage.