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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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Newtonian God

Quote from: MrKai on June 05, 2008, 12:43:54 PM
So while there may be some trickery, I don't think THAT is the trickery we're looking for.

I do not think that Archer is trying to trick anyone. I think he truly believes his ideas will work. Unfortunately, so far he has been really bad at communicating his ideas in writing...and now equally bad with video.

MrKai

Quote from: Newtonian God on June 05, 2008, 07:19:22 PM
I do not think that Archer is trying to trick anyone.

Nor do I..but I can see why what I typed might make someone draw that conclusion...

Quote from: Newtonian God
I think he truly believes his ideas will work. Unfortunately, so far he has been really bad at communicating his ideas in writing...and now equally bad with video.

Oh nononono :)

His writing is muuuuuuch, muuuuuuch worse.

Like I said, I yanked the higher quality videos (thanks Apple!) and the whole "what's going on at the other end?!?!" effort at "Zaprudering" was a bit of PurePower's confirmation bias (no one is immune) as it is without question showing the 20liter/kilos weight doing what he says, in both directions.

A static long shot would be better, but what is there is clear enough in the good video to rule out someone giving it a boost pretty much, and from what I'm gathering, to do what it did, it wouldn't need one anyway, nor violate any laws of physics.

Not that I care much about that part, either way. Like Ringo, I am neither Mod nor Rocker...

;)

If or not it will do anything else remains to be seen of course...for whatever reason.

So my official stance I guess would be "Alright...go on..."


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TryToBelieve

Maybe we just need to be more clear what we want to see in the vids and help out by writing the script.

Like: (what I want to see)

set up camera somewhere unattended with full view of device and hit record. (do not stop until entire script is done)

1. show the lever in balance.  both sides elevated so we know it is in balance without weights on either end.
2. pull the short end down (should be cake if the lever is balanced) and attach the drum (filled 20K of course)
3. now climb the ladder and attach the 1 or 2K weight.
4. observe until the beam stops moving completely
5. measure the two sides of the beam with a tape measure so we can confirm the length ratio

you dig?

ramset


Archer the proof is in the pudding  you got more vids let um rip  Chet
@Meccano  the bearing needs to be strong   the flex will need to be addressed   metal and magnets
tricky stuff ?
Archer   has people thinking[for themselves] and experimenting whats so bad about that
And what is it now chasing  37000 reads
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damm just did a test and i was wrong rofl

a crane to lift the beam at the total cost of the weight of the beam does nearly kick ass as well as the machine itself, the cost of stragit return is 17 kilos.

but like i said, i had to repair the beam when it broke, and am am pretty sure it weighs more than 17 kilos, so if that truns out to be the case on the scales, it prooves the half pipe use and inverting the fulcrm is the key, it could not possible in all the newtonian math in the world cost less to pull it down aganist the 5 to 1 leverage weight of the beam itself.

the only comeback for that would be to say the short end was heavier, which kida fucks up the old long end being heavier than 5 to 1 now doesnt it.

I should have realised that if the halfpipe over the hill climb was a truly unique power on its own it would apply in both directions, so off to do the vids of rear lift, and then take it down and weight it.

my money is better than 17 kilos in weight, ther has to be at least 2 kilos in steel from the original weight ;D ;D
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