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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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infringer

Satellite effect = Kicks another motion preformed by attatching the tubes to the wheel with springs so that there is a hesitation before the wieght falls so the weight will fall behind so the tube will still fall yet remain attop untill the other reaches the critical point then presto it falls and pulls the next one up...

Or possibly the rod actually extends out thus giving tons of pull from 1 oclock to 7 oclock

or a vairation of both but thinking magnets I know this thing must either extend or bend in order to work...

If not you got me I aint to great with a lot other then creative thinking... And shame is I dont have much room or tools but on the 20th I guess I will have to find a way I wish the wait wasnt so long...

To the inventor:

This question is eating at us all Why the 20th of June 99.9% of us not in it for profit will not attempt a build untill the item is ready for production as we dont have money to waste... But anyhow you take care ...

If you need a 7th person with access to tons of storage and whatnot to keep your information from being suppressed I'm game !!!

And I'll assure you that no data will be leaked untill that date either as per your request!

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Tinker

Archer would mounting the wheel across the centerline, in a vehicle mounted device negate most of the inertia issues.  Most of us here in the states drive forward or backwards ??? BUT THEIR ARE EXCEPTIONS.......SCRATCH SCRATCH.

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exxcomm0n

The brain burneth w/ concepts today.

And I still haven't read much. Placement of the magnets has been buggin me.

8 o'clock might be good for a repelling electro-magnet. An attracting permanent magnet at 1?
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oak

Archer said (4 posts up): 

"go back to the basics, imagine you have already got your environment, your balanced wheel, you have already magically found out how to get the wheel to turn itself (or waited until the 20th) what could make moving the weights easier or cut your load down, would a planet with lessor gravity help? or can you do that here in a fashion?"
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OK now that's an interesting hint.  How about we fix the repulsing electromagnet at 7 o'clock, and fix a permanent magnet (stator) at 1 o'clock, facing in attraction to the approaching magnet-on-a-rod-inside-a-tube.

And let's say the permanent magnet by itself is not enough to jerk the rod out toward itself, but in combination with the pulse of the repulsing electomagnet (180 degrees away), it will.  Thus it requires far less energy to move the rod assembly toward 1 o'clock than using the electromagnet by itself.

One possible problem, however, may be that the permanent magnet stator will want to continue to hold onto the rod-in-a-tube rather than let it continue on its way, so there will be some drag.  But since the magnets would be pulled apart somewhat sideways to each other (by the rotational motion), rather than directly (face from attracting face), perhaps it will not matter too much.  It might be that angling & placing the stator magnet "just so" in relation to the tube end's direction of travel will minimize the unwanted grab.

Edit to add:  I just saw exxcomm0n's post just above; maybe it's a fine idea -- I haven't studied it -- but what I'm talking about in my post is with the three tubes (each containing a rod-weight-magnet assembly) fixed to each other in asterisk fashion.  It is interesting however that we both suggested a perm. magnet at 1 o'clock.)

exxcomm0n

Wait........

A pulse @ 8:00 and a permanent at 12:00?

The permanent doesn't have to be of enough power to fully attract the magnet rod, just enough to help the "reverse gravity" (forward momentum) keep the satellite (magnet ended rods) from touching the earth (gravitational force downward).

The loss of momentum from break away shouldn't be too bad.

That last post from Archer really helped!

I think that could work!!!! Maybe.

Now I have to build one.

Archer, I bet you still have a bunch of tricks up your sleeve. ;)

Thank you for the lessons sir!
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