Roll on the 20th June

[oak]

In an email I asked Archer a couple of follow-up questions.

1.  On his "build" page, in the instructions posted at "7pm 5/05/08 oz time," Archer said:  "at 7 o?clock through to 9 o?clock the was an arc/curved electromagnet (looked like an I beam with the wire around the centre polarising both plates) it was flat I bent it slightly."

I asked:  since each of the three tubes is in a different plane (all parallel to each other), did you use three different electromagents -- one for each tube -- or did you make an electromagent that was wide enough to span the width of all three tubes?

Archer answered that he used three separate magnets, which he had purchased.

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2.  After looking at "am1ll3r's" simple animation (Reply #304, on page 8 of this thread), I wondered whether, in Archer's design, the entire rod & magnet/weight assembly was inside the tubes, or if, as in am1ll3r's animation, the magnet/weights portion of each rod assembly was located outside the tubes (and the tubes only hold the rod itself, not the magnets & weights on the rod).

Archer answered:  "the rods are enclosed fully withing the tube or you will get rotational flex on the tips outside the tubes."  [I take this to mean the weights and magnets are also fully enclosed within the tube.  - Oak]

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3.  Archer made an additional comment about am1ll3r's animation; he said generally it is good, but the "earth arc at the top" (i.e., the row of permanent magnets at the top) "cannot be there more than 75 percent over the tube when the rod arrives."   [I believe this is a criticism of the animation showing the rod "floated" as far as it will go (toward the upper end of the tube, if the entire assembly were enclosed in the tube), while still being under the upper arch of magnets.  The arch of permanent magnets must end at some point before the push/pull of the magnets causes the rod to completely overcome gravity.  - Oak]

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4.  Archer also said:

"as to the length of the rods, that depends more on the strgth of the magnets, in my first experiment, i kept shooting the rods clear out the other side of the machine!!!!!!!!!!! the weights were actually originally to stop this effect, because when i put a stop on the end of the tube, it hit so hard it bounced back each time. This is why i laugh so hard at people wondering if it will move against all these mythical forces, the weights were to prevent this happening, although my experimaent model section before i built the first one were much lighter and smaller again to test the float theory."

[am1ll3r]

Hi all.
Again to help me understand better I make an animation. So i will share with you also. its not 100% correct but  it helps me understand. Again the bottom magnets are the electro magnets.

[sigmaX]

Hi people:

I was reading archer?s website, full of hope. But then I read this:

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here is a tip, a water turbine/generator at a local waterfall can generate vast amount of power when tons of water pour over the blades, yes???

the generator is so large (10 ton turbine )that to turn it must have one ton torque to turn it, but there is a drought, the local council puts in steps and a lift connected to the turbine , ten locals at 100 kgs each walk up the steps and step on the lift, the one tone weight of the locals turns the turbine until they reach the bottom of the steps again.

the local council guy sees this working and says hey instead of all the guys walking up the stairs, lets put 900 kg on the lift and one guy can walk up the stairs, they do this and it works once, as the 900 kgs, is now stuck at the bottom, so the local council puts in an arm on the side of the turbine with 900 kgs on one end and 900kgs on the other end, they position the arms at 1oclock and 7 oclock, there are 2 landings also at this point, a man steps on the end of the arm at 10 oclock and it turns round to 7oclock where he steps off and the next guy steps on the other end at one oclock and the wheel turns for as long as this happens. there is no physics in the world that can dispute this, nor any common sense. what science fails to realize is that i am turning a 10 ton turbine with one man weighing only 100 kgs. science always thought of Newton and the equation of pounds falling x gravity etc, and never did any equations exist for environment already existing. need to try this at home?
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Is it just me and my ignorance, or this is just plain "bullshit" ?

if you place an arm with 900kg at each side, place each side one at 1 ocloclock, the other at 7 oclock, then the guy that adds the 100 kg extra steps in the 1 oclock arm ..... NOTHING HAPPENS!!!   the torque needed is 1 ton. If the arm had only one side, with 900kg already in it, placed at 1 oclock, then YES, it would go down, and stop about 7 oclock... but THIS WONT HAPPEN if there is another side of such arm with also 900 kg doing the opposite work: the 900kg cancels themselves, and the real torke is just 100kg.

Did I get everything wrong ?

REgards,

sigma.

[onesnzeros]

Is it just me and my ignorance, or this is just plain "bullshit" ?

if you place an arm with 900kg at each side, place each side one at 1 ocloclock, the other at 7 oclock, then the guy that adds the 100 kg extra steps in the 1 oclock arm ..... NOTHING HAPPENS!!!   the torque needed is 1 ton. If the arm had only one side, with 900kg already in it, placed at 1 oclock, then YES, it would go down, and stop about 7 oclock... but THIS WONT HAPPEN if there is another side of such arm with also 900 kg doing the opposite work: the 900kg cancels themselves, and the real torke is just 100kg.

Did I get everything wrong ?

REgards,

sigma.
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no its not just you, it is indeed BULLSHIT on a grand scale.

There is no working model
There is no video of a working model
There are no drawings for a working model
There is no such thing as a gravity wheel

ARCHER it appears has mental problems. I feel sorry for him.

Regards,

ONESANDZEROS

[AB Hammer]

@onesnzeros

Welcome to the forum, and you are totally wrong.

I have solved the problem, and I will not argue how here. You will have to wait until it is properly protected. It is also a waste of time without being able to show it, for it would be premature for safety sakes. I also can't say that the man from Australia has or has not done, for I don't use magnets or motors in mine. So I will just wait and see.