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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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Morgenster

I don't really see why PurePower or other 'detractors' are a negative force in this 'debate'.
I've only seen very few sane and relevant posts here and it seems to me there's a lot of people here trying to hold on to the childish belief that there's some giant world conspiracy keeping us from 'a simple free energy device' because that's easier than realising that humans are simply not so smart and stupidity grows exponentially with the size of crowds.

If I wanted to work on an idea I'd be glad to have at least someone who'll wave a red flag and tell me what to watch out for and what might not work and for what reasons as it would protect me from making silly investments and wasting time/money on an idea that needs a bit more thought. It's still up to me to decide if I push on or not.
A lot of loonies here seem to assume that these types of comments are meant to discourage you from creating a working device and so keep perpetuating this insane idea that there's 'Archurians' or 'Newtonians' or 'oilmen'. If they would instead do the research and look up decent maths, physics and even chemistry material they wouldn't judge so fast. But that would be too hard and it's so much easier to relish in that feeling of injustice to your silly little ego.

Either way, I would love to see a working FE device, even if it's Archer's crazy idea, but you won't see me crying and raging if someone posts objections. So far in this thread these posts have been the most sane and well researched of all.

What I would also like is for people to stop the ad hominems and focus on the physics here because from what I've read over the past few months I suspect there's a lot of confusion over the physics involved here.

ChrisBlong makes a very good point about conservative forces. and like I stated earlier: I would like to know from Archer or anyone else what the benefit of using magnets over a mechanical system to move the weights are. Preferrably a well researched answer that will lead to more knowledge about magnetism. Not some bullcr%p about magnets having magical powers or 'inherent' energy.

purepower

@shakman

I know I am not protected by Australian law, nor can I prosecute Archur under US law. THATS WHY I REFER TO INTERNATIONAL LAW! Ever heard of the UN? That's who wrote and passed the bill.

And when did I say anything about his thoughts? I said I would prosecute him for his actions: releasing my privet information. Read it again.

And when did I ever say I want Archer to fail? Please quote me, and I will quote numerous accounts where I say the opposite. You only see in black and white. Your can't conceive a Newtonian who is for FE.

Ten or so pages ago, I would have nothing to do with any of this bullshit. Those that have been around long enough know I provide useful insight and analysis into the device and components. If you can't see past any oft his to understand that then there is no use to arguing .

@Dirt

Sure, my company has handled a few oil projects, but it is not an oil company. And I have only been with the company for two weeks. How do you explain two months of posts?

@All

I have officially changed my position. Archer has discovered a functioning free energy device. He is a noble humanitarian for wanting to share his discoveries with all.

If anyone wants advice (like many of you already have), you may pm me, or send me an email. This is what I'm really here for, but it looks like I can't do this and deal with public opinion at the same time.

I will no longer post publically to this thread. There is no need to reply to this post. I withdraw all previous statements that are matters of opinion.

Archer, I wish you all the best. I truly hope you change the world. I never meant for things to escalate to this point. I appologize.

-PurePower

Morgenster

Oh, and what's up with the batcave?
Did that move to another thread?

tekylife

@ purepower

Never say never ! If you really manage not to post in this thread, you'll have an occasion to comment on the final machine or come back for a  deserved  "I told you so" if the AQ story turns out to be another FE scam. I guess we can still discuss the things to be addressed for a working machine in another thread! Plus I'd appreciate your promised analysis on BATMAN's OU device.

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Mr.Entropy

Quote from: Morgenster on June 27, 2008, 11:44:28 AM
I would like to know from Archer or anyone else what the benefit of using magnets over a mechanical system to move the weights are. Preferrably a well researched answer that will lead to more knowledge about magnetism. Not some bullcr%p about magnets having magical powers or 'inherent' energy.
That's simple.  Nobody would bother building a perpetual motion machine if they didn't think it might work.  Since nobody is aware of any real physics that actually allows such a thing, however, it is impossible to build a perpetual motion machine and _know_ that it _will_ work.  It follows that before you set out to build a perpetual motion machine at all, you must include in its design some features that you do not entirely understand.  Magnetism and/or a (linear!) superposition of conservative force fields satisfies this requirement for many would-be inventors.