Roll on the 20th June

[JohnGalt_USA]

For anyone that missed it, Archer has posted some new construction photos dated
4.30pm 11/05/08. http://www.surphzup.com/gpage3.html

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Too bad that almost every 'OU' / 'FE' discussion leads to believers/skeptics competition.

Mind you, energy wasted that way (time is a necessary component) is probably tremendous... But that's how the world works.
And that's why such forums are at the same time educating and entertaining, too. At least for some of us, though..

Mr. A.Q's gravito-magnetic wheel is (from the 'data'  we know so far) a 'dead horse'. So, knowing the saying - do you like to 'beat a dead horse'??

For me it's simply fascinating how many people think that some general concepts, which were and are still working (at least in our world - like Newtonian stuff) will break overnight if some new revolutionary tech will be invented... In other words, it's not impossible, just highly unlikely.... From AQ's writting, the main point is that general physics laws are just crap.... His colourfull opinion and the (never seen, untested, presently nonexistent) prototype is the proof for that. Lovely... Whoever is in this 'FE business' long enough, knows that such claims were always there... For centuries. And the results are 'somewhere there', too...

Of course, skeptics are aware of that (based mainly on knowledge and/or experience and/or previous attempts, or simply common sense)..

Ah, crap...
The point is, this magneto-gravity wheel is quite easily 'doable', so with a little luck (and engineering skills), it should be working at 20th of June...

Naturally, it won't be 'OU'. Far from that. It will work as a VERY inefficient el. motor. The el. energy needed to displace weights will be much higher than recaptured energy via el. generator. It's at least a century long known fact... You know, the conservative nature of gravity and electromagnetism and such stuf... Oooops, a permanent magnets 'energy battery' is included? Yes, that will be very helpfull...

I don't want to be dragged into a concept fault list (beside a generally flawed 'AQ physics' (sorry), there is a bunch of other misconceptions (engineering issues (like electromagnet efficiency when acting at a distance, a PM sticky-points, etc,etc,etc)),... Many knowledgeable people mentioned it in this thread before.

That is, if Mr. AQ doesn't realise the futility of his concept before the deadline, and quits and vanishes from OU 'waters' for good... So,  a new 'FE legend' will be born?

Of course, I'm aware that I (amongst others) may be wrong. A working, thoroughly (OU) tested (by qualified people) gravito-magnetic wheel would change my opinion in no time. If that happens, I will give credits and make apologies to Mr. AQ publicly. Fair?

Cheers!

[The Eskimo Quinn]

although i read the site when i have a chance, most things end up resolving themselves, but clearly some basic physics is missing from everyday training, as to the last response and sigma.

we shalll teach the via reverse engineering exactly how wrong they are, the smalll weigh revoved is only equal to the large weight because the large weigh does not fall that far?

Ok build the machine backwards then. take your large weight you 5 kgs (and i did give fulcrum details i said broomstick), and place it on the scales it weighs 5 kgs does it not???

now attach the fulcum and any lighter weight to balance and then lift, when you kick the light weight off does your 5 kg weight pack up and leave the fucking room??, mine fell back to the start point, and guess what?? it still weighed 5 kg. gee fuck me how about that,

never heard of weight down to air pressure to turbine to lift you drop kick?? it doesnt even need fucking movement you clown, and you and your like minded friends are giving speechs on my knowledge of physics.

spare us what you know, I could fit your combined knowledge on the back of a postage stamp.

To all others keep going, someone should take up the point with the site host, difference of opinion is fine, everyone is wrong sometimes, but members must believe in overunity, denial that it exists at all should be grounds for removal.

This may not seem a serious business to the skeptic, but there is more at stake than having asay on a forum not designed for the likes of these people.

Some of us have a contribution to make, large or small if holding up progress of any attempt to make the world a better place is an entertainment, then you are a sad person.

[tbnz]

@ Sigma:

Quit with the negativity and your rants, your worse than Archer. And get over the physics examples already, i'm really sick of hearing about the 900kg weights, sheesh!!

[capthook]

A working, thoroughly (OU) tested (by qualified people) gravito-magnetic wheel would change my opinion in no time. If that happens, I will give credits and make apologies to Mr. AQ publicly. Fair?

Naturally, it won't be 'OU'.

Well - I think most of us would agree that Archer already deserves credit for:
1) having an idea
2) acting on that idea
3) building something based on that idea
4) and especially for sharing that idea

Glad to see he has a thick skin after all....

And if it IS OU?  Credit would be an understatement........  Even though given the full context of all that has presented to date, OU would appear unlikely.

However, the way the 2 opposite side weights are connected together appears to be a possible solution to the unwanted movement of the weights on the left side back out to the perimeter due to centrifugal forces.  That's an aspect that has had me stumped.

Archer - thanks for sharing your build with this community......

As to banning the skeptics - a different (or opposite) point of view (or even a firm belief OU can't exist - often this type of person can have a solid grasp of PROVEN science) can actually sometimes be helpful in realizing flaws you didn't realize existed.  And besides - most forums would have booted you long ago for YOUR language! 


edit:  "never heard of weight down to air pressure to turbine to lift you drop kick"
I've been able to decode most sentences - but not this one....

CH