Roll on the 20th June

[capthook]

Soon we will be discussing the best generator to use for this I would like to start off with a less expensive generator if possible or maybe we can simply just use DC motors or wind turbine type setups....  Like Mr. Piggots generation

Mr. Piggotts generator - the 'axial flux' design - is interesting as it appears to produce decent output without the cogging effect of traditional iron core coils.  This would seem to be a good design to minimize the iron 'drag' that would greatly affect the wheels output potential....

Have you/anyone built one?  I am considering building a small one for a project I'm working on.  I'm wondering about input/output efficiency.....air coil/dual flux compared to traditional single flux/iron core coils...

See the (free) plans for the axial flux generator at:

http://www.scoraigwind.com/pmgbooklet/itpmg.pdf

[ramset]

Infringer I could be wrong but when this device  is operating at the scale of what Archer is going to show us once he's done with his other device  I think buffers and really strong materials will be required   these rods are going to be slide hammers up against the stops trying to keep going  Nail gun buffers are cheap anyway just thinking down the road   I personally don't see how Archer's design can't work   but the engineering to keep it from hammering itself a part is why I wait for Archer on full scale Build   Chet PS if it spins slow enough with plenty of torque that is another story

[infringer]

Captain Hook,

Yes I too think this design is rather interesting but I have some questions based upon power generation that maybe some here could answer...

In current generation a magnet passes over a copper coil made of 1 wire

MAG ------- @ ----->

Now would it be more benificial to have several coils and just have it pass over the single wire of the coils?

MAG ------- | | | ------->
xxxxxxxx/xx|-x\
xxxxxxx@x@x@

Note: The mag will not pass over the rows with x's in the ASCII pic.... Jut where the dotted line and arrow exsists..

Or if it is a matter of the amount of electrons being moved then why not simply flatten out the coils rather then wrapping the coils so that wire is directly over the top of other wire is not in effect shielding the effect...

I beileve  that current coil setups for power generation with magnets may be inefficiant and this may be the way to go one way or the other!

This is theory untested but would be nice for either the one wire approach generating possibly on 3 seperate phases rather easily...

Or generating more electrcity by flatening the coil but yet keeping the coil tightly wound...

Shine a lil light on this one folks!

Another Edit:

How about another design have a long pvc non magnetic shaft and with magnets attached around its circumfrance keeping it balanced then have it slip into a larger pvc pipe or non magnetic pipe supported seperately by a stand and inside on this pipes walls have coils setup accordingly to generate power... Just thinking outloud here there is many points from which one could generate power on a machine without really causing detremental excess drag and there are better designs for power generation to be found I share with you some of my free thought in hopes to spark some good thought.

-infringer-

EDIT:

Chet
It is possible that you are not familiar with wind turbine designs they require way less friction to generate power...

Buffers or keeping the unit together is no issue it dont take rocket science to build buffers as you call them they are all over in industrial complexes and to tell the truth the number one buffer used for the force of the largest hammers in use today are wood blocks to absorb impact !

But building something sturdy and of quality is a trait that us folks in the good old US of A take pride in doing.... Workers actually complain to the company when something is of poor quality and most of the stuff of poor quality believe it or not is imported!!!! Call it coincidence.

No offense to the aussies intended as our imports dont come from ausssies....

By the way the only imported aussie thing I am familar with is a candy bar that goes by the name of violet or velvet crumble and this was 100% quality flavor nothing like anything else in the USA...

Chet surely a man of your stature could think to make something withstand force of pounding...

But what I am saying is it may not be nessacary to build this thing out of 350 crate engenies spinning around on a wheel...

Enjoy the edit chet as always no offense ment.

[ramset]

INfringer  you are right as Archer noted wind turbine alts /gens are the best also very pricey [unless you build yourself  probably more pricey in the long run]
cyclic hammering 24/7 in this venue is not something I am familiar with  however hammering like drops of water is relentless in its ability to ruin your day[ plenty of experience there]   Chet    PS how could I possibly be offended your one cool dude

[CLaNZeR]

Last update for me this weekend, or should I say extended weekend as we have had today off work in the UK as May Bank Holiday was upon us.

Was going to leave the Brass Rods till next weekend as I am away during the week working as usual, but came across this metal weld glue that is fantastic stuff and dries within minutes. Saves alot of time making up brackets to mount the rods and rock solid when set.

I cut the Rods to 50mm, drilled and tapped each end with a 3mm thread and then are mounted on each connector.
The over all length of each rod end to end is 340mm and the movement is 25mm on the sliders.



Okay it is not so tidy but does the job

Here is a video showing how the extra weight now gets the sliders going down where they should be.


http://www.overunity.org.uk/aq/CLaNZeRandTheSwordofGod2.wmv

More next weekend, unless the sun is shining then I got to finish off oiling my decking 

Cheers

Sean.