Roll on the 20th June

[ramset]

MK any one that takes the time out of their lives [family friends jobs etc etc ] and says guys don't do anything im building something   I already built   but bigger its gonna change the world    don't send money    just wait june 20th  well we tortured the crap out of him    and he started giving details   and yelling at known science   I know  he feels unappreciated for his efforts   but this is what we do here  and people that build go right to the front of the line   smart guys that talk  THE WORLD IS FULL OF     Chet

[exxcomm0n]

Hi exxcomm0n
To me its all about the claim lifting 20:1 why does the lever need to be balance because until its balanced you can't say your lifting 20:1 because most of the weight is used to balance the lever before any weight starts lifting and as I said your lifting nothing, the heavy side is falling.

Hi Graham,

I'm trying to convey the concept that lift doesn't start @ 0 degrees (balance), but at the point where the long end of the lever doesn't weigh as much as it did before the placement of any weight.

If it moves from the point of where attraction to gravity stops (at rest), it is being lifted.

The weight of the lever from the fulcrum is the most important thing!

Ask yourself how much weight are you lifting when you put the ruler on the screwdriver at 10" because one end goes down the other up, to know the true weight it needs to be balance then you put 20 on one side 1 on the other and watch it drop to the 20 side, the one will never lift 20 and your setup will never lift 20 magnets with the 1 because I don't beleave your rullers weight is the same or more then 20 magnet.
As I pointed out Archer beam weight is just right to make everything balanced until he puts the 1ks on and once he does that it drops, it doesn't matter what side of the beam he puts that 1k on, short or long side it will still drop to that side.

I have to disagree with you there.

In Archers video when the 20L is taken off the step ladder, the long end rises to twice the height of the larger stepladder next to it.
It doesn't drop until the 1L weight is attached to it.

I think this could be my last post people just don't get it so why should I waste my time trying to show them.
Take Care All
Graham

You will be missed. You didn't stoop to the level I, or some others did.

We may not agree, but you have been respectful and non-confrontational.

I wish I had some of your good habits and was less swayed by emotional content.

[onesnzeros]

MK any one that takes the time out of their lives [family friends jobs etc etc ] and says guys don't do anything im building something   I already built   but bigger its gonna change the world    don't send money    just wait june 20th  well we tortured the crap out of him    and he started giving details   and yelling at known science   I know  he feels unappreciated for his efforts   but this is what we do here  and people that build go right to the front of the line   smart guys that talk  THE WORLD IS FULL OF     Chet

Where do you fit in Chet? Cheerleader?

onesnzeros

[ramset]

Grahams not going anywhere he's one of the magnet guys    Chet   PS and sooner or later     what started all this[the wheel] will start to roll    one way or the other

[Rusty_Springs]

MK any one that takes the time out of their lives [family friends jobs etc etc ] and says guys don't do anything im building something   I already built   but bigger its gonna change the world    don't send money    just wait june 20th  well we tortured the crap out of him    and he started giving details   and yelling at known science   I know  he feels unappreciated for his efforts   but this is what we do here  and people that build go right to the front of the line   smart guys that talk  THE WORLD IS FULL OF     Chet

Hi All
Anyone that follows someone that uses flawed science is a fool and setting the search for true OU back in time that can be spent working on something that may work.

No one has disproved me or proved me wrong when I said the beam accounts for most of Archer lift and 20:1 was an illution.

No one has disproved me or proved me wrong when I said the wheel needs to be perfect before you get any continues rotation because there is no working model and its not like people havn't been trying.

Prove me wrong.
Take Care All
Graham