Roll on the 20th June

[exxcomm0n]

sorry BATMAN am visiting out of state the previous HOLLY COW was me not Ron [much more conservative]    Chet

Ummmm......Chet?

Is that the same RonL also known  as RonL2524 that posts on you tube??

I REALLY like his electrodes!

DUDE!!!!!!

[MrKai]

It would seem that Mr Kai is no smarter than Purepower when it comes to history and the real truth that the great inventions are only ever discover by such men.

Dear ass,

Please stop now. Thank you tho for using my exact words...because my exact words WERE NOT ABSOLUTE. You, YOU made that change. like ya' do.

I said "virtually", and "almost every"...phrases that are clearly not absolute. YOU SAID "and the real truth that the great inventions are only ever discover by such men." is a disingenuous half-assed attempt at trying to attribute this to me.

As with the remark to purepower, you cannot learn to be a genius, you are or you are not.

The above list shows that Kai is not as up on his schooling as he would claim others should be.[/b]

It does nothing of the sort. Again, Archer the Conjurer...saying something is happening in spite of clear evidence otherwise.

Additionally,

How many major advances do you think have been made in the last 100 years...and um, exactly how many of the 5 you mentioned were done in that timespan?

Clearly again, the evidence (AIIII!!! EVIDENCE!!! RUUUUUNNNN!!!) shows that these advancements are not being made by lay-persons.

I TOLD YOU I'm not the one.

Try again.

-K

[utilitarian]

Dear ass,

Please stop now. Thank you tho for using my exact words...because my exact words WERE NOT ABSOLUTE. You, YOU made that change. like ya' do.

I said "virtually", and "almost every"...phrases that are clearly not absolute. YOU SAID "and the real truth that the great inventions are only ever discover by such men." is a disingenuous half-assed attempt at trying to attribute this to me.


It does nothing of the sort. Again, Archer the Conjurer...saying something is happening in spite of clear evidence otherwise.

Additionally,

How many major advances do you think have been made in the last 100 years...and um, exactly how many of the 5 you mentioned were done in that timespan?

Clearly again, the evidence (AIIII!!! EVIDENCE!!! RUUUUUNNNN!!!) shows that these advancements are not being made by lay-persons.

I TOLD YOU I'm not the one.

Try again.

-K

Here is the problem.  People here love to bash mainstream Newtonian physics - they say it is too rigid, corrupt, biased, closed-minded, controlled, whatever.  It is just more fun to bash and pull ideas out of the blue and say, "Oh, mainstream science would never even consider this out-of-the-box thing," and then everyone can be a pioneer.

I came here to learn some new things about alternative energy, and there are few things here and there that are useful, but the problem that gets me is largescale dismissal of the scientific method.

In science, in a particular field, people go to great lengths to prove things.  And then others try to bust these findings, and after a long and rigorous (and often grinding) process, certain things are accepted as truths.  This way, new scientists do not have to try to reprove same things over and over.  Sure, occasionally, findings get overturned, but only on good evidence.

The drawback of the rigors of science is that they tend to be boring to the amateur.  I have been guilty of this as well, so I am not just indicting others.  But anyway, people just make broad dismissals of certain concepts without the full appreciation of the enormous effort and indisputable empirical studies that went into proving these laws.  I see lots of people equating the laws of physics to the laws of the land, which can be changed on a whim.

So I guess what I am trying to say, when you are dealing with the free energy subculture ("free energy" as in perpetual motion, energy from nothing), there is a fundamental disconnect that you will quickly encounter, and it will hit you like a brick wall.  There is nothing you can do to overcome it, and the more rational arguments you put up, the more you frustrate yourself.  Moreover, others will consider you an enemy of the cause, or worse, a simple troll.  Anyway, just know you are not alone, but in the far minority here.

[Evg]

What/who is a genius? (Copied from Wikipedia)
Sounds like someone we know?

Geniuses are often accused of lacking common sense, or emotional sensitivity. Stories of a genius in a given field being unable to grasp "everyday" concepts are abundant and of ancient vintage: in his dialog The?tetus, Plato offers a picturesque anecdote of the absentmindedness of Thales. Some individuals in this arena of "absent-minded professors" and persons lacking normal social skills fall in the autism spectrum (such as Asperger syndrome). A genius's intense focus on a given subject might appear obsessive-compulsive in nature (e.g., Howard Hughes and aviation), but it might also simply be a choice made by the individual. If one is performing groundbreaking work in one's field, maintaining other elements of life might logically be relegated to insignificance.

[purepower]

@Archer

You have no spine. You drop in and out of this forum just for slandering with no contribution to the build. You dont even provide the link to my rebuttal on your site. You are a person of weak morals.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4540.msg104718.html#msg104718

This is my last post to you. Sure, some things have been invented by uneducated tinkerers, I have already stated that in my original post. But do you really consider a lawnmower or a clothesline great inventions?

Einstein was very well educated and actually held multiple positions as a professor and chairman at universities.

While Edison didnt have formal training, he was still home schooled. But lets look a little further into his life. He worked with Telsa in the early days, and Tesla was educated in electrical and mechanical engineering as well as mathematics. Edison wanted to push DC on the world, Tesla wanted to push AC. Guess who won? TESLA! The more educated of the two...

"in fact every "major" invention that changed history was by a high school only or less educated person." NOT TRUE. Just because you say it doesnt make it fact. FEW, not every. There are FAR MORE inventions from educated individuals than not.

One other note: the few great inventions that came from uneducated individuals were created before the industrial revolution. This was before there was much structure and the same experiments that were being done in universities could be done at home. Times have changed.


You make absolute statements with no basis.

You come to a site where individuals from both sides are working together just to talk poorly on others. Did you realize your a failure so you came to make a petty argument?

Seriously Archer, whats your deal? I thought you were open source, yet you come to an open source forum and setup roadblock after roadblock.

Either contribute to the site that you helped create or get out. Spite is no longer tolerated here, and you are no exception.

-PurePower