Roll on the 20th June

[shakman]

@All Australians

Please understand I meant no harm. I have no personal vendettas against any of you, and all Australians that I have met have been truly genuine people. When AQ started attacking my gov't and country, my patriotism kicked in and I spoke on emotion, not logic. While I have said many of the same negative things about the US, it is entirly different to hear those same words come from an outsider. I appologize for my previous question and bite my tongue.

@PurePower

Dude, relax. No harm done. My comment was purely tongue in cheek. I think most Aussie's would be like me and not really give a shit. It's all good for a bit of banter 

[roadstar31148]

exx,you are so right,,being an aussie and watching the USA over the years telling everyone how things should be ,,,war mongering everywhere,,,and then blasting the shit out of lraq,to get oil,,,after the 911 govmt job,,,and still the american people believe in the war 'on terror',,,,,,,,,i just spent 2 months in indonesia ,,deciding if i would relocate there with my hotrod business,,,,but the i felt very unsafe and have decided to maybe go to phippines,,,,americans are not liked in indonesia i can tell you,,,and of course aussies also because our govmt when along with the usa in the blasting and killing in iraq,,,,,,,

[Rusty_Springs]

@PurePower

Dude, relax. No harm done. My comment was purely tongue in cheek. I think most Aussie's would be like me and not really give a shit. It's all good for a bit of banter 

I Agree shakman and no worries Power like shakman said most Aussie don't give a f we are just a bunch of stirers,.
Take Care and its cool Power
Graham

[gwhy!]

@ GWhy, how are you measuring this "force" on your graphs? 
a properly assembled Tri-Force Gate does NOT HAVE an attraction at the end of the gate, it has a REPULSION! that kicks the roller OUT. You dont lose anything leaving the gate - you  GET BACK almost what you put in, to enter the gate.

If your gate does ANYTHING other than this, then it's not correctly assembled. 

There IS a repulsion at the entrance, which from hundreds of repeated tests, in various configurations - is estimated to be equal to the repulsion at the gate exit + the losses within the gate-array. (though there are a few anamolous configurations, where the exit energy is enough to enter another identicle gate array.)
A single gate array, appears to be balanced both IN and Through + Out.

I'm curious as to what exactly your graph is showing.... is that force in the horizontal plane? In one direction?

How are you measuring this? do you have a way to determine the verticle force vector?   
The reason i ask, is because that doesnt look like many previous measurements of Graham's gates, that several people have done.

Hi sm0ky2,
    The graph was made from readings taken from a small scale the picture shows my first attempt but this was no good because it did not give me and negitive readings so the I changed the setup where i have a fixed weight on the scales that was attached to a lever/pendulum arrangment with the roller mag fixed to the pendulum. The readings were taken on a flat surface and the gates were setup correctly. Im sorry if you dont agree with the results but they make perfect sence to me. A roller will get pulled back into a array if it does not have enough momentum to overcome the very small area of attraction at the end . Surely if there was no attaction at the end then you can place the roller mag at the very end of the array and it will still get spit out but as we know and seen this is not the case. If you think that the graph is incorrect then please can you do the experiment yourself and post your findings this would be most helpfull for me. 

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi sm0ky2,
    The graph was made from readings taken from a small scale the picture shows my first attempt but this was no good because it did not give me and negitive readings so the I changed the setup where i have a fixed weight on the scales that was attached to a lever/pendulum arrangment with the roller mag fixed to the pendulum. The readings were taken on a flat surface and the gates were setup correctly. Im sorry if you dont agree with the results but they make perfect sence to me. A roller will get pulled back into a array if it does not have enough momentum to overcome the very small area of attraction at the end . Surely if there was no attaction at the end then you can place the roller mag at the very end of the array and it will still get spit out but as we know and seen this is not the case. If you think that the graph is incorrect then please can you do the experiment yourself and post your findings this would be most helpfull for me. 

Hi Gwhy
I respect your findings and I do know the Trigate isn't perfect but it is the closes we have so far and there are way to improve it, what I don't like about what I can see in the pic is you have it on a cart with a ruler on the end which would mean your measureing it with a load, taking into acount the load yes you would see the magnets doing more work comming in and leaving, also joining the gates cut down the forces as I have said because you are stretching the flux every time you add a gate.
Take Care Gwhy
Graham