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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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therealrasta

Quote from: queue on July 10, 2008, 04:18:24 PM
if the wall on the other end is AS strong, and i suspect that it is .. breaking it with momentum and gravity will be a challenge. 



True.. But possible. Look at his last video.. He breaks it with momentum and gravity. And with a extended and weighted arm, it seems very plausible.


http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=newtonsend269

Mr. M

Quote from: queue on July 10, 2008, 04:04:39 PM
what do i know .. f*cking cats eh ! 

Oi!  My cats know how to fetch and talk to me too... In PuuuUuRPs, of course.  ;)

Quote from: kremlin01 on July 10, 2008, 04:09:34 PM
However you did say you'd read most of the posts, so you should know that you tempt fate.

Oh, I know... In all honesty I really don't mind.

Apart from a smattering of basic sciences my knowledge on this subject is limited to a few years of freethinking, forums, PESwiki, other wiki sites, Googling and rummaging through places like FreePatentsOnline. I suppose you could say I know quite a lot about not enough, but then again I'm not so presumptuous as to think it's possible for me to know everything about something.

Thanks to everyone for the warm welcome by the way.  ;D

therealrasta

Quote from: Mr. M on July 10, 2008, 05:00:31 PM
Oi!  My cats know how to fetch and talk to me too... In PuuuUuRPs, of course.  ;)

Oh, I know... In all honesty I really don't mind.

Apart from a smattering of basic sciences my knowledge on this subject is limited to a few years of freethinking, forums, PESwiki, other wiki sites, Googling and rummaging through places like FreePatentsOnline. I suppose you could say I know quite a lot about not enough, but then again I'm not so presumptuous as to think it's possible for me to know everything about something.

Thanks to everyone for the warm welcome by the way.  ;D


Yeah my cats fetch, sit, laydown, and heel.. Funny, people say cats can't be trained..  And glad to have a free thinker aboard.. Welcome!

ramset

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purepower

@krem

Yes, still my wonder grew. I thought that quote was dead. Just because I think he is full of shit doenst mean I don't think it is interesting. I want to learn something new, but all I have done here is picked up trash!

The idea of free energy amazes me. As a kid, you probably wished you could fly (like superman). Just because you "know" its not possible doesnt stop you from dreaming.

If sorry if I make this fairytale a nightmare for you. Maybe if you opened you your mind and dropped the pompoms you might learn something...


@Rasta
Quote from: therealrasta on July 10, 2008, 04:32:14 PM
True.. But possible. Look at his last video.. He breaks it with momentum and gravity. And with a extended and weighted arm, it seems very plausible.


http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=newtonsend269

How so? Can you prove it? I believe with enough "momentum" (actually its the kenetic energy were really concerned with here, but I'll play along), we can break any magnetic (or physical) wall, but we always slow down in the process.

If AQ claims it can be done with enough "momentum," I say BS. He has created a FE wrecking ball.

You can potentially throw any body at any barrier and have it break through, if it is traveling fast enough, but will inevitably slow down. In technical terms, ifbthe kenetic energy of a body exceded the energy required to overcome the structural integrity of the barrier, the body will pass through with only that difference in energy remaining.

Now, for a smot like AQs, the energy need to break free is the same energy gained from initial attraction. Hmm, sounds like overunity.

Now you can argue "well if its imballanced, can't that break it?" Sure, it can. But one that imballance is on the other side of the system, how do you break it now? Shifting!

Wait, shifting? Hm, that's a mechanical process that requires energy. So we have to use energy to get energy!

Okay, so now the only way to get energy is with energy. So how is this going to give us free energy? We must "get" more than we "give?"

Okay, well what do we "give?" Again, this is the rod shifting energy, done by the magnets, moving the rods front start shift point (A) to end shift point (B). We must also give some of our gravitational and kenetic energy to break the wall.

So, what do we "get?" Well, we get magnetic attraction energy, equal to the wall loss energy. But we don't get to use all of this because some went to shifting, remember? Now we also get back our gravitational energy as we go from B to A, but we don't get all of this back either because we use some to break the wall.

Already this is an underunity system, and that's without friction in the bearing!

Only potential for gain is to lower wall energy in comparison to attraction energy. Running at it really fast may "brake" the wall, but the loss is still the same. We just had enough energy starting so that after we lose wall energy, we have enough to go through.

A wrecking ball uses potential energy (height) to swing through walls. If you do not raise it high enough it will not pass through. If you do, it will pass, but lose energy in the process.

AQs uses the same principal, but with magnetic energy instead of gravitational. He starts back far enough so it can pass, if he doesnt it will stop (as seen on the videos). Even when it passes, it looses energy!

-PurePower