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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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Newtonian God

Quote from: shakman on July 13, 2008, 09:14:11 AM
This is all theory for now. I'm going to try to set up some experiments soon, although my illustration skills are weigh better than my building skills  :-[ EDIT: Excuse the freudian slip, meant to say "way better"..

Looks guys, here is the deal, I have automated machinery and I can build stuff fast. If someone provides 2D vector files (something that I can open in Adobe Illustrator CS3) I can quickly convert it to a 3D CadCam file and knock it out on one of our CNC machines with absolute precision. I can produce parts in minutes that would take hours/days/weeks to build by hand.

As I have said in previous posts, I am willing to donate the time and use of my software and machinery to produce something. I came to this forum because Archer said that he had already designed it and had it working. So I eagerly awaited (with much skepticism) for for June 20th and for Archer to reveal the secret behind his design so I could build it. Okay, so Archer did not delivered but maybe he had the best of intentions. I am willing to let it go.

So what do you want to build?

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The Newtonian God is in a generous mood today, do not upset him!

kude

Quote from: shakman on July 13, 2008, 09:18:18 AM
Here it is...

Shakman,
This is an interesting design. Does the travel rod, that should be at 30% over the length of the track rod, center itself over the track rod? If you use the metal balls at the ends, a track might be made for them to travel in to help guide the path. If not some kind of guidance track is needed.

A variation I have been thinking about is placing a magnetic rod in a plastic oil filled tube. The tubes radiate from a hub that goes back over a dc motor/gerator. The magnets of the dc motor/generator push the rods out or draws them in at the right time. The motor is rotated to have the magnetic fields where I want them. I could see adding the tracks to the back and/or front sides to add propulsion to this system as depicted by your drawing, or maybe a simplied round track with the required gap.

Can the travel rods exceed 30% over the track rods and still work?

queue

So .. this is my first video on youtube and my first video here.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7cVDYKwb-5Y

You can download it here too ( my site ) but you'll have to wait for the download to complete before it will appear in your media player..
http://relativity.ca/aquinnwheel/aqwheel.wmv

After seeing AQ's last video where he breaks the wall from 10 am i decided to setup one of my wheels to try and replicate what i saw or my own variation of it anyway.

It will be my work in progres over the next little while or until i appease my own curiosity .. 
i had a lot of trouble to overcome the wall but finally seems maybe i broke it too ! !

Just don't have my wheel setup right now to take advantage of any gravity fall after breaking the outer wall of the magnetic array .. Hopefully i can reconfigure the array to break the wall at 3 or 4 pm instead of how i have shown it done in the video.

Making the video and figuring out all the conversion has eaten a better of my day today so far..
Back to work on my test wheel 
i'm having fun if nothing else and my lady is actually helping me out too.

Here is a high res pic of this prototype you will see in the video .. i'm trying to figure out how to add it as an inline image ?



Here is the URL at youtube ..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7cVDYKwb-5Y


shakman

Quote from: kude on July 13, 2008, 01:48:57 PM
Shakman,
This is an interesting design. Does the travel rod, that should be at 30% over the length of the track rod, center itself over the track rod? If you use the metal balls at the ends, a track might be made for them to travel in to help guide the path. If not some kind of guidance track is needed.

A variation I have been thinking about is placing a magnetic rod in a plastic oil filled tube. The tubes radiate from a hub that goes back over a dc motor/gerator. The magnets of the dc motor/generator push the rods out or draws them in at the right time. The motor is rotated to have the magnetic fields where I want them. I could see adding the tracks to the back and/or front sides to add propulsion to this system as depicted by your drawing, or maybe a simplied round track with the required gap.

Can the travel rods exceed 30% over the track rods and still work?

Hey Kude,

Thanks mate. I was imagining that the "travel rod" positioning inside the arm would conform to the shape of the track however this definitely needs testing. I have attached an image with some "ghost" arms to illustrate the idea a bit better.

I would need to tweak the design a little as it was created before Archer mentioned the 30% increase in size. I will need to clarify this a little with Archer. This design illustrates about that ration if you include the steel balls. I was thinking also that I might have to bleed the end of the array like Archer did in his demos to make it easier to break the attract-back. I'm not sure how well the repell magnet on the back plate will do this, particularly with a repel magnet waiting at 12 o'clock on the hub. I've rotated the hub stator in hope to ease the repel effect until the last minute (i.e. make the repel field weaker on the approach to 12 o'clock) and illustrated a small bleed out on the array in this in the new illustration.

I'm slowly getting to a point where I can take my head out of CAD and do some hands-on stuff. I've got some "toy" magnets now, but they probably won't be sufficient for this test as I'll need to build a Mayernik magnet array.

shakman

Quote from: Newtonian God on July 13, 2008, 01:37:19 PM
Looks guys, here is the deal, I have automated machinery and I can build stuff fast. If someone provides 2D vector files (something that I can open in Adobe Illustrator CS3) I can quickly convert it to a 3D CadCam file and knock it out on one of our CNC machines with absolute precision. I can produce parts in minutes that would take hours/days/weeks to build by hand.

As I have said in previous posts, I am willing to donate the time and use of my software and machinery to produce something. I came to this forum because Archer said that he had already designed it and had it working. So I eagerly awaited (with much skepticism) for for June 20th and for Archer to reveal the secret behind his design so I could build it. Okay, so Archer did not delivered but maybe he had the best of intentions. I am willing to let it go.

So what do you want to build?

--
The Newtonian God is in a generous mood today, do not upset him!

Hey Newt, that is extremely generous of you.
There are tonnes of ideas here. Seeing as you're using your resources I really think you should pick whichever idea you think will work best.
I am happy to do any 2D designing you require.

shakman