Roll on the 20th June

[exxcomm0n]

Looks guys, here is the deal, I have automated machinery and I can build stuff fast. If someone provides 2D vector files (something that I can open in Adobe Illustrator CS3) I can quickly convert it to a 3D CadCam file and knock it out on one of our CNC machines with absolute precision. I can produce parts in minutes that would take hours/days/weeks to build by hand.

As I have said in previous posts, I am willing to donate the time and use of my software and machinery to produce something. I came to this forum because Archer said that he had already designed it and had it working. So I eagerly awaited (with much skepticism) for for June 20th and for Archer to reveal the secret behind his design so I could build it. Okay, so Archer did not delivered but maybe he had the best of intentions. I am willing to let it go.

So what do you want to build?

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The Newtonian God is in a generous mood today, do not upset him!

@ Newt

Man, bring content and attitude like that to the table, and I'll start anxiously looking for your posts instead of groaning when I find them (as I'm sure you do when you see mine ).

I'm not going to apologize for the nickname I gave you, but I will not use it again if you're able to keep this type of behavior going on.

Also, since you've seen lots of CNC designs realized, and I'm sure that not all of them have worked flawlessly, if you could keep the critical reviews coming and explain why you're being critical with prehaps a suggestion of how you think it COULD work, I'm sure noise levels from us all will decrease!

Again, aces attitude man!

@ kude

I gave you a nickname cause you gave me one (all right, I didn't have to claim ownership of it @ all, but I have no qualms about "owning it".
Never thought of it as a bad thing unless it precludes you from being able to do anything else.)

But your comment brings up some good points that I'd like to ask questions to all about.

@ all

There have been more tangents spurred by EVERYONE (satellites, fulcrums, tools, etc.) here and they seem to have stemmed from TERMINOLOGY, and the misunderstanding of some using the terms (me, mostly ).

It's slowed down my productivity @ the least, and I'm sure it's probably done the same for some others.
Could we all try to see what someone is TRYING to say versus getting hung up on the words they use doing it?

I will try, and if I seem to be slipping, CALL ME ON IT (but try to do it in the way of "Didn't you mean xxxxxxx instead of yyyyyyy?"). I slip and fall as much as the next guy.

Kosher?

On another front, there have been a lot of "new" effects and concepts born of this thread, and the more there are, the more we can get mired in the situation above.

1.) The original wheel concept using magnet arrays and rods with magnet ends to shift weights attached to the rods to create an overbalance on one side.
Call it the rod wheel? Maybe RW for short?

2.) The Mayernik effect which, while I see it (with some tinkering) being an adjunct and enhancement to the above wheel, can also (again, with tinkering) be a free standing generation device in and of itself without some of the other effects that could limit the RW in the way of RPM (centrifugal force, etc.) cause it removes a moving part.
Call it the Mayernik Effect, or MkE for short? (I would have gone ME, but I capitalize injudiciously at times and it might confuse others when I do).

It may cut down on noise generation (even from me!) later on.

But again folks, some nice ideas being talked about here.
While every one has the chance NOT to work as much as it has TO work, just bringing them means you're thinking, "How could I make this work?".

Aces kids!

EDIT

Between kude and shak there's been another wrinkle.
How about "shifting MkE" for those?

[shakman]

Shak GEET PANTONE for gas oil fuel water vaporizer  Amazing stuff Chet

@Chet

Cool, I was just looking at the GEET stuff. Looks great. Thanks for the tip. Are you running one?

shakman

[AB Hammer]

Looks guys, here is the deal, I have automated machinery and I can build stuff fast. If someone provides 2D vector files (something that I can open in Adobe Illustrator CS3) I can quickly convert it to a 3D CadCam file and knock it out on one of our CNC machines with absolute precision. I can produce parts in minutes that would take hours/days/weeks to build by hand.

As I have said in previous posts, I am willing to donate the time and use of my software and machinery to produce something. I came to this forum because Archer said that he had already designed it and had it working. So I eagerly awaited (with much skepticism) for for June 20th and for Archer to reveal the secret behind his design so I could build it. Okay, so Archer did not delivered but maybe he had the best of intentions. I am willing to let it go.

So what do you want to build?

--
The Newtonian God is in a generous mood today, do not upset him!

@Newtonian God

That is a very good offer, and very considerate and helpful.

[exxcomm0n]

Hey Kude,

Thanks mate. I was imagining that the "travel rod" positioning inside the arm would conform to the shape of the track however this definitely needs testing. I have attached an image with some "ghost" arms to illustrate the idea a bit better.
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Cool dude!

I'm not sure you can use the steel ball bearings on the roller/rod and it would be attracted to the stator mag instead of repelling.
Steel attract seems to always attract no matter which pole is first attached to it.

I've had this be the effect when I've experimented, but do not take my word for it alone, but give it a little bench time because what I experienced might not be what happens for you!

EDIT

But what if you were able to extend the rod with a smaller/skinnier/longer mag and adapt it as an axle for a nylon wheel or something?



@ Queue

Nice man!

Every little bit helps, and your "little bit" seems to greatly outweigh any I've brought.

As Archer has conceded at this point, it's not just "his" idea anymore, it's ours.
He (so far) just seems to be putting the most effort into it and whether it succeeds or not, we all have to admit we probably wouldn't even be thinking about it without him!

[shakman]

Cool dude!

I'm not sure you can use the steel ball bearings on the roller/rod and it would be attracted to the stator mag instead of repelling.
Steel attract seems to always attract no matter which pole is first attached to it.

I've had this be the effect when I've experimented, but do not take my word for it alone, but give it a little bench time because what I experienced might not be what happens for you!

Good point!
Definitely something to think about. I will try to test this out soon. I was trying to remain faithful to the configuration Archer was using in his loop tests but that is a slightly different kettle of fish.
If this is the case then the alternative would be to increase the length of the magnet cluster by either clustering more mags together or using longer ones. Again, needs some bench time.
Thanks for the input.

shakman