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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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exxcomm0n

Quote from: dirt diggler on July 17, 2008, 01:46:42 PM
Hey guys.

I've been super busy with work lately, so haven't had much time to think about this project.
However this was stuck in my mind, so I thought I would share ;D

Pretty pathetic rendition I know, but you will get the point ::)

Anyway, the Mayernik array leads to a ramp, which leads to another ramp, which turns a very small generator, and then back into the array.

let me know what you think.

ciao,   Dirt

Hey Dirt,

Good to see you back!

Been looking at your graphic and I see the idea, but I think the wall might be too tough for it. I know my experiments have shown so far that the MkE array is tough enough to throw back the same weight/mag @ least 1/3 the traveled distance. That's a tough bugger.

But I attached a couple alterations of your graphic that might defeat it (but of course testing of them would be the definitive answer).
Sorry about turning it into B/W, but transforming a gif to a jpg does that w/ the program I use.

1.) This one incorperates the ramp concept while allowing the circle to continue a little longer (perhaps not necessary, but the graphic was easier to alter that way), while the MkE array follows a reverse curvature  and ramps up and away from the roller surface (you know me and ramps ;) ). In effect making that "sliding" wall that drops from 6' to 2'.

2.) This one extends the upper run of the circle to the right to use the MkE for carrying theroller to the smaller closed end while ramping the mags up and away for the same effect as above while the now smaller end of the now completed circle transforms the forward momentum of traveling right, to traveling left ( you might be able to start the array farther up the bottom to the right with the array doing a reverse "hump" to weaken the effect where it might influence the generator "gear" [wait....let me alter the pic again!]).

In either of these the upper slope's ramp is variable and can be moved anywhere along it that will allow for the momentum to be kept.

The one thing my experimentation has shown me is that it seems to be the last 3 (it's a magic number!) MkE's are what have the wall effect, but that a roller started at the beginning of the array goes all the way to that last one before reversing direction (even a little farther with what i have been able to do with the pyramid configuration with the last gate being BIG in area, but with an ever decreasing width.

Anyway, take a look and see what you think. This is just my opinion.

Some seem to be laboring under the mistaken assumption I'm Archer's right hand man, but your experience with this thread since early on might belie that type of attitude. ;)

Keep banking energy in that 'plane maintenance since I like seeing you around and reading your ideas.

:D

EDIT

Just thinking........

For production/high speed the 2nd pic makes more sense.

Maybe make a motorcycle type drive chain with elongated links?

I can't never leave well enough alone.


EDIT2

All right, the 1st alteration could use a bit more "curl" to the ramp as it mighteffect the roller once it's dropped to the slope.
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

ezzob

Rusty-Springs

Get a better job in your oil-company

exxcomm0n

Quote from: kude on July 17, 2008, 04:11:51 PM
To me, I look at 500 reasonably intelligent guys with 500 computers trying to do an experiment and collaborating. Among this group are those that don't think it can be done, hecklers, pranksters, showboats, scientists, and regulars guys who want to see and participate in something different and maybe come up with something that works.

I learned one thing watching some of the guys doing their tracks. The traveller  stays on the track going around a flat curve. I haven't seen that anywhere else, and is possibly a first. The Mayernik loop is a first. Maybe you've seen these things elsewhere, but I haven't.

Yup YUP!

@ the end of the day I hang up the harlequin suit and try to tabulate how much of each I've been to see if I contribute anything to the mix.

So far it's been trending to the positive.

At least to my warped view. ;)

You seem to be hanging out in the same area.
Nice, ain't it?

:D
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

LarryC

Quote from: ezzob on July 17, 2008, 04:58:43 PM
Rusty-Springs

Get a better job in your oil-company

ezzob,

What are you doing  ???  Gwhy is one of the helpful people. Rusty not an oil guy, just constantly wants to prove he's done everything first.

Regards, Larry

dirt diggler

QuoteKeep banking energy in that 'plane maintenance since I like seeing you around and reading your ideas

Hey Ex.
Thanks, I always enjoy myself here ;D

I like the mods you did, there might be a way to make it work, I'm not sure.  I think that breaking the wall at around 12 oclock is a big advantage cause the we can use the full effect of gravity, whereas breaking at 6, now momentum must bing it back into the array.
Anyways, I've had quite a week so far, so I'm going to extract the "banked" energy in a bunch of ice cold beer. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

ciao,  Dirt
No, really, I love beating my head against this wall.......