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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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Evil Roy Slade

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on July 18, 2008, 12:48:30 AM
but you can buy a set of advance plans if you have a spare 2k, money back g'tee if not provided after vid of working wheel within 30 days (basically it will just sit there until posted) those with the advance will likely get the existing mag supplies so it is worth it if you are an engineering firm. all other people who did not contribute should just wait. you will get to see it running anyway just not weights and sizes etc, you will not see all of the array in the video.

This is exactly the reason people like me are here.
I gave AQ the benefit of the doubt thinking him to be simply self deluded.
However this is now a turning point. He is a Scammer.

I would like your opinion here Mr Stefan.

ERS
I thought I was wrong once...but I was mistaken.    Oscar Wilde.

capthook

Quote from: Evil Roy Slade on July 18, 2008, 02:38:47 AM

I gave AQ the benefit of the doubt thinking him to be simply self deluded.
However this is now a turning point. He is a Scammer.

I would like your opinion here Mr Stefan.

ERS

I tried to report his post to moderator - said "error - no moderator found"
Maybe you should email Stefan?

Quote from: shakman on July 18, 2008, 02:15:56 AM
If you want to see them sooner (which would be advantageous if you're an engineering firm) then you can pay the $2k. How can you consider that criminal?

I'm not a lawyer and I certainly don't know Australian laws - but soliciting and collecting funds for vaporware to a mass audience without proper licencing/documentation/contracts etc.  would probably violate several laws here in the U.S.

Any lawyers care to comment?

therealrasta

Not trying to flame anyone here.. I deeply hope Archer can provide a working wheel as he has said.. And I do have a certain amount of faith in his abilities to do so..

But he has gone against what he said in the beginning about releasing all this out to the public and to host the information in other locations also.. So it cannot be censored and  make it out to the hands of the mass public that desperately needs this..

Now it seems as though he is going to make the mass public wait on the release of information, which we all desperately need. And it may not even be all the information as stated by him in the beginning. And the idea to release only a partial vid that does not show how everything is working is only going to cause more controversy on the situation and wasted time as a whole..

Just my thoughts.. Again.. Not flaming.. Just learning and thinking.   :)


helmut

Quote from: capthook on July 18, 2008, 01:56:42 AM
Huh?  Where?  Show me the quote!

You think? ! ? ! ? !  And now we should TRUST HIM and send $2,000?  Criminal

Did you give out any donation?

But you are shure one of them , that whatched the vid with the roller travelling the upper halvepipe.

This was a demonstratrion of Work done by magnets. And he repeats it several  times.!

And after all you (and many others) are not able to give any credit to him ?

Yes   he did change his agenda    as the conditions have changed .

Archer is still working for us. Thats the point.

What you are worried about?
I dont believe , that you (ore the group that you refer to) would spend 2k from your spare.

Because : If the donation is done, the money is lost.

No problem for me and some others , but you count on any cent.

Although  better not to talk about money.

Just wait and see. At the end he will disclose it to everyone.

helmut

capthook

Quote from: helmut on July 18, 2008, 02:48:31 AM
Did you give out any donation?
....
Yes   he did change his agenda    as the conditions have changed .
.....
What you are worried about?


No - I sure didn't give this scammer any $$.  Why not?  Here's a quote from me from PAGE 6 of this thread 3 months ago:

Quote from: capthook on May 03, 2008, 07:24:31 PM
Hi ramset:

First - I wouldn't be here if I didn't believe that some of the "laws" of physics may have holes in them and that our basic understanding of the world around us is limited.  Take dark matter/energy.  Scientists suppose it makes up ~95% of the universe - and we can't see it, touch it, or know anything about it.  So we only know a small percentage of the 5% we DO know about.  To think OU is impossible is not realistic.

With the inaccuracies and suppositions put forth with this current incarnation of OU - I am just suggestion caution before pouring too many resources into it.

The 'whipmag' comes to mind.  Hundreds of people devoting countless hours and resources on a questionable device with little to show for it.

I certainly hope for the best - but there a many reasons for prudence.

All the best,

CH

And now - I have gone from a sceptic who has tried to offer ideas to the mix to a belief he is not just delusional - but a full fledged scammer.  Guess another month or 2 will tell.... HA!

And yes - he has changed his agenda - just like he has changed his story and his design countless of times...

And what am I worried about?  Him scamming people out of their money.  And wasting their time and resources on his madness.  And him pulling ideas from other in this forum to produce an authentic enough hoax to soak people for their $$.
How many times has his design changed from his original "working" OU device?
Do you REALLY think archer is going to produce what no one else has been able to do for hundreds of years?  REALLY?  And 3 months ago... it was "in a few months".  Now, it's "soon" so send money! ?
Those are just a FEW of my worries..........!

>:(

Go ahead!  Send him $2,000!  Hopefully you are in Australia so you can prosecute when you get ripped off!

::)