Roll on the 20th June

[shakman]

I don't think anyone here wants AQ to fail.  The issue is that supporters have touted that he has 'solved' the OU/FE puzzle.  He has shown many examples and nifty experiments, but that does not sum up to a working OU/FE device until he succesfully puts it together.

Yes the experiments are great and good for demonstrating differents events and configurations, but to simply proclaim "there, all you have to do is put them together" is NOT proof that OU/FE has been found.

Some people here have given him the crown already when in fact he not yet succesfully found OU/FE.  They cling to the hope that he is the Energy Saviour that already has the answers, when in fact he is an inventor searching for the answer like everyone else.  There is nothing wrong with being a searcher, it is the claim to holding the key to OU/FE without solid proof.

Go ahead and flame me for being an Oil Man, but then re-read my post.  I have not attacked anyone or said "it won't work".  I merely stated facts.

@OU-812

That's a fair opinion but I don't think you have correctly stated the attitude of Archer's supporter's.

I personally have "given him the crown" (if that's how you wish to put it) purely because he is working his butt off and getting results and shows more promise than anyone before him, and I've been lurking on OU/FE forums for a while now.

But, as I said, it is a fair opinion. I just wanted to clarify my position. I'm not a blind-folded fan-boy. I have a great deal of respect for Archer for the work he has done and support him accordingly.

shakman

[broli]

I saw the vid, yet again a old idea most call it magnetic current some use iron wire to do this and yes the bolt must be touching the magnets current carring metal for it to be a magnet.
Neos close to weaker magnets will lift them but because you a weaking the magnetic flux by having it run through the metel to the neo it will not reach out as much and it has to touch the weaker magnet to join the flux between the Neo and weaker magnet, also its not a supermagnet in fact its alot weaker then the neos you was using.

Your denial is beyond comprehension. You reached the stage where you'd ignore a unicorn parading in front of you just because you made very sure never to believe in it. If you're a true engineer and saw this idea, your mind would burst with ideas, mine is. For some reason your fucked up mind goes into auto lock mode and starts making you type this fucking shit.

[purepower]

Oh boy, this has gotten good...

well if you were waiting for the last minute, it just went past. donations are off.

but you can buy a set of advance plans if you have a spare 2k, money back g'tee if not provided after vid of working wheel within 30 days (basically it will just sit there until posted) those with the advance will likely get the existing mag supplies so it is worth it if you are an engineering firm. all other people who did not contribute should just wait. you will get to see it running anyway just not weights and sizes etc, you will not see all of the array in the video.

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Notice he doesnt actually say "guaranteed?" He says "g'tee." How can anyone hold him liable for something he doesnt actually say? IMO, this is an intentional loophole as to avoid prosecution...

My guess is he'll sell the plans, then call the engineering firm a bunch of "dumb fuck blonds" when they cant get it to work! And no hope of getting your money back, he only "g'tee"d it!

And why would AQ wait 30 extra days to save the world? He tried to make rusty and me feel guilty for postponing the release, saying we are the cause of thousands of frozen children.

How many kids do you think died while he was writing that biography?

How many kids do you think will die in that extra month?

I guess Archer is okay with that blood on his hands, it does put extra money in his pockets... How does this plan make him better than any oilmen out there?



@Shake

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I sit on a foreign exchange desk most hours of the day,
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So you work for a finance/governmental institution, but...

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I've had my share of beers for the day. I'm off to rejuvenate for work with a power nap. And, yes Catpain, you did just get rocked by someone under the influence.
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...you get drunk before work? So either you wake up bright and early, get smashed, and then roll off to work, or you lie about having a "foreign exchange desk" job (because we all know they work normal hours, markets close smart guy) and sit on your ass drinking beer acting as a cyber-bully all day and head out to your evening/night job.

So which is it? Are you an alcoholic that gets drunk before work first thing in the morning? Or do you really have a night job that allows you to lounge around drinking before you head out?

Either way, youve just shown everyone your a fucking loser or an alcoholic liar (same thing)...

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I just hope you carry on like that in front of me when we're demonstrating Archers working machine in the US, I might be an actual bouncer there and I might use your face to demonstrate who much torque it's producing. And you'd be an expert on reach arounds wouldn't you, you little turd? I can imagine you'd be someone's little bitch.
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Very mature. Then again, you cant expect too much from a drunken clown.

"Who" or "how?" If youre going to be a hard ass on everyone for their typing/spelling, youd better start watching your own ass a little closer...



@Exx

As you probably guessed, I only skimmed your post. But heres a highlight of little bits I caught:

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My aim in the argument was that the usage of a tool reduces FRICTION and lessens the amount of energy needed to defeat it!!
A constant expenditure of energy is needed to negate the effect of gravity/friction and THEN the energy used is the same as long as you don't count the continuous pull of gravity end the energy needed to negate its effect.
Then everything is "balanced".

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Gravity IS friction because without it, there is no friction until you try to manipulate a force (this assumes that there is no atmosphere as we are now outside gravity's influence and the only real friction can be because of encountering mass in opposition, or traveling into the influence of a(n) (energy) field.

Trying to move something vertically without the use of a tool is the ultimate in friction.

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You're both now using tools now to reduce the effects of gravity, just like I did when all this started.
Gravity is our constant and most important element of entropy on the 3rd rock from the sun (and all other rocks I'm so told by astrophysicists).

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I want to take you up on this one, but I'll be disappointed if yours doesn't include this effect as a free falling energy constant:

              m              ft
g = 9.8 ---- = 32.2 ----
              s2              s2      (seconds squared)

Both our uses of tools have to use this to account for gravity/friction but stairs (except for those longer than 1m) never have to get squared due to time.
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Friction and gravity are not the same. Friction is dependent upon the force normal to two bodies, which can be a function of gravity, but this does not mean they are the same.

Going straight up a rope, assuming there is no contact between you and the wall, there is NO FRICTION (except in the pulley).

Gravity causes acceleration (9.81 m/(s2) mentioned earlier). Acceleration and mass equals force. Force applied over a distance is energy.

Going up a wall or ramp experience the same acceleration, right? Therefor, they experience the same gravitational force, right? Since they travel the same height, they require the same energy, right?

Now introduce the ramp and we have contact, contact means FRICTION. Even with your ramp battery, we now use more energy than going straight up.

DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS!!! DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS!!! DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS!!! DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS!!! DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS!!! DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS!!! DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS!!! DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS!!!

I dropped this conversation because trying to get you to understand this concept has proven more work than it is worth. Your baked brains just cant handle it. Its like trying to build a dam out of play-dough.

Everyone who has been following this feud has already chosen their side. Everything that can be said for either case has already been said. There is nothing either of us can contribute to sued the audience on way or another.

All who have seen the truth, congratulations. You are now that much closer to understanding what it takes to  build a functioning system, OU or otherwise.

To all who believe ramps store energy, there was not much hope for you then anyways. Only time can show you your errors, and I will be here waiting when you want to learn...

-PurePower

[shakman]

@ Heiwa
                        I agree with you totally, except that I enjoy reading peoples rants, and you sound Hot.

I was gonna say that bit about Jen sounding HOT 
.... but then I thought you never know what gender someone's gonna be on the internet 

Heiwa is Japanese for Peace. I like it. I like it alot.

Anyway, not really the kind of forum to be picking up in... and a little off topic.... so I'll leave it there.

shakman

[shakman]

Oh boy, this has gotten good...

Notice he doesnt actually say "guaranteed?" He says "g'tee." How can anyone hold him liable for something he doesnt actually say? IMO, this is an intentional loophole as to avoid prosecution...

My guess is he'll sell the plans, then call the engineering firm a bunch of "dumb fuck blonds" when they cant get it to work! And no hope of getting your money back, he only "g'tee"d it!

And why would AQ wait 30 extra days to save the world? He tried to make rusty and me feel guilty for postponing the release, saying we are the cause of thousands of frozen children.

How many kids do you think died while he was writing that biography?

How many kids do you think will die in that extra month?

I guess Archer is okay with that blood on his hands, it does put extra money in his pockets... How does this plan make him better than any oilmen out there?



@Shake

So you work for a finance/governmental institution, but...

...you get drunk before work? So either you wake up bright and early, get smashed, and then roll off to work, or you lie about having a "foreign exchange desk" job (because we all know they work normal hours, markets close smart guy) and sit on your ass drinking beer acting as a cyber-bully all day and head out to your evening/night job.

So which is it? Are you an alcoholic that gets drunk before work first thing in the morning? Or do you really have a night job that allows you to lounge around drinking before you head out?

Either way, youve just shown everyone your a fucking loser or an alcoholic liar (same thing)...

Very mature. Then again, you cant expect too much from a drunken clown.

"Who" or "how?" If youre going to be a hard ass on everyone for their typing/spelling, youd better start watching your own ass a little closer...
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-PurePower

You do a hell of a lot of guesswork don't you kid?

You're "guessing" that Archer is trying to find a loophole.
You're "guessing" that I get drunk before work.
So you "know" that an FX desk works normal hours do you?
You know a hell of a lot there kid.

You might want to read through my posts prior to these. I work night shift. You know, NYSE? Yeah? Well that's where we make most of our money, so they get their best guys on night shift. I could probably do my job better drunk than you do sober anyway, considering that this is your only comeback to anything I've ever typed drunk - and you still manage to fuck it up.

Since when does working for a financial institution make me a bad guy? It actually probably makes me a lot more intelligent than you.

Outwitted by a "drunken clown" again. You are a clever little cookie aren't you. I think I can hear your momma calling, you're warm milk is ready.

Oh sorry, I forgot to read "DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS!!! DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS!!!"
Standard reply from someone who can't decide which foot to stick in his mouth next.

Take that to the bank, asswipe.

shakman

PS I don't use spell-check, I don't re-read my posts. And I am a hard-arse. Get used to it.

EDIT: PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS!!! PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS!!! PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS!!! PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS!!!
I want to see what other idiotic, narrow-minded thoughts you might have on the world.