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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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AB Hammer

@ Archer

I watched the video and I see a problem that can easily be corrected. You are going to need a mount for your axle that is fully adjustable. 

1 in and out adjustment. and 6 angle adjustments. I say 6 for dealing with magnets a minute adjustment can make or break your project 4 may not give you enough range. I learned this back in 1974 with my school magnet wheel project.
With out a dream, there can be no vision.

Alan

exxcomm0n

Quote from: kude on July 24, 2008, 12:40:48 PM
@exx
So you would be okay with well crafted slanders?

How can they be well crafted if unfounded? It was more of a descriptor rather than a point all its own. ;)

If I'm caught out being wrong, I have no problems with that. That is not a slander, but a proof of history (I usually like to recant AND apologize before that happens as is documented here).

Quote from: kude on July 24, 2008, 12:40:48 PM
@video

Archer's video is not what I expected. I wouldn't say it's proof of concept yet. It shows different behaviours and the occasional 360 and a lot of hand starts. Again a lamp pointed at the wheel would help a lot. It is still way too murky.

I think the problem here is setting deadlines. Why set them at all? Just show the occasional progress or new ideas when it works well enough to share. The big deadline passed and you regrouped well enough.

I actually think a lot of people that come to this site would like to have a friendly dialogue with you on the subject.at hand. You keep coming back here because you know there are people here who want you to try to do this and support your efforts. You can't seem to get past the few who are malvolent and who push your buttons or those that honestly tell you what they think and offer a fair critique or view this scientically. Maybe your temperment isn't made for this kind of interaction. You put yourself on a world stage, and you now need to learn how to cope with it. Do you drift off into obscurity or continue the search for what you started. I guess if you leave this thread now, it will die.

With the amount of work you're putting into it I can definitely see that occurring, but I have a feeling others will keep prodding the idea with a stick from different angles because something assumed to be impossible is now being seen as impossible without the right tools and design.

As soon as anything reaches that point it becomes larger than it previously was and people start building from that basis while expanding, refining, and discovering new aspects of it.

Once you put your hands to something instead of just your opinion it becomes much harder to walk away from.

At least, that's what I've always found.

@ all

Any comment on wheel design content of the last post now?

There was opinion, self righteousness, and actual content dealing with design in my last post, and ya see what gets comment?

:D
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

madsen

Strange how at the very end of the video, the wheel self runs for 3 revolutions, then stops.  If it started from a standstill and had no assistance throughout the run, why would it break the wall twice, then fail the third time?  ??? ::)


capthook

Quote from: exxcomm0n on July 24, 2008, 11:48:09 AM

Don't bitch when you don't bring anything to the table.
You can bitch when you contribute, but coming in after the fact with an "I'm so ashamed of you!" type post really doesn't cut much rope.


Exx - I felt compelled to addresss some of your comments directed at Bomber

Have you now joined Shakman's 'bouncing squad'?  While one could argue
that having contributed to the 'science' of the project might mean an opinion carries more 'weight',
you setting parameters for someone expressing their opinions is akin to censorship.
And Bomber has obviously put in the 'time' required to stay abreast of the conversation - so he should even qualify for the measures you wish to set.

And besides, it was 2 paragraphs out of a very long posting addressing this issue. 
A far cry from the pages of dick-waving/measuring you, shakman and PP have posted.  ;)

Humans - being the emotional beings they are - are sometimes subject to irrational actions.
We all are guilty of this (yes - I'm raising my hand too) from time to time.
When I remember we are all deserving of civility and compassion - it can help 'balance' my irrationality.

I felt the majority of the post was a well-written heart-felt and as non-offending as possible attempt
at ways 'one' might approach things and interact with people in a different light possibly/probably producing superior results. (and thus a very good contribution to this often 'crazy' thread  :) )

I felt it made for good reading.......
With the exception of the sections you disagree with - would you agree?

All the best...

P.S reserving 'science' comments until more is shown - which is apparently soon....


cypheraticus

Quote from: madsen on July 24, 2008, 02:49:18 PM
Strange how at the very end of the video, the wheel self runs for 3 revolutions, then stops.  If it started from a standstill and had no assistance throughout the run, why would it break the wall twice, then fail the third time?  ??? ::)



@madsen

  • It looks like Archer might have given the wheel the slightest push at the beginning
  • I think he is also holding the wheel/axle in place by hand, a small movement may have disturbed the momentum.

As other have mentioned, this video is hardly conclusive. It is tantalizing though. Archer is very good at teasing us!  ;)

I eagerly await the final video.