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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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Rusty_Springs

Quote from: queue on July 25, 2008, 11:08:35 AM
Heres what i wanted to mention but didn't have time a bit earlier ..

i noticed this rather odd thing about the array and i didn't mention it before because i didn't want to distract AQ  from his task. i also regret having ever mentioned isotropic ferrite in my video and posts as it seemed to send AQ off on a new tangent where he then believed it was the answer for the wheel . I did try to tell him later when i saw that .. that ISO/ferrite was not the answer but he just ignored me .. which is ok too .. i am nobody.
ISO ferrite is not very magnetic BTW .. ( someone else's post )  on it's own a nice chunk of it can barely pick up a small pin.. and it cannot support it's own weight to stick to a pice of steel .. Magnets like it though and happily stick to it.

Heres what i wanted to say ..
ON my wheel after i made video two .. i left the magnetic array as it was for a couple of days untouched.

When i returned a few days later and started to play with it ...
i noticed the rotor could no longer climb the array and go over the top !
In fact the rotor had not even made it over the top . stopping at say the 1 or 1:30 position.. ( don't forget my rotors climb from 6 oclock was counter clockwise..

i then rechecked my own video to make sure and see how far it had climbed before and sure as hell there it was .. proof
The array had changed strength .. weakened . over the space of a few days .. and I nor anyone else had touched my test wheel or changed anything about it ..so what happened ? ?

i spun the rotor .. checked it wasn't rubbing up against something .. spun it fast ..  jiggled it .. still couldn't climb the array it had done so easily a few days before . .
big mystery to me !!

Seems to me that possibly the magnets weakened just sitting there in the array config doing nothing .. . The rows are .. don't forget in repulsion mode just sitting in the array .. maybe this weakens the mags in each row even if they are doing no work .. 

This is why i said .. that even if we get a working PM wheel . .
the next step to claiming it's OU .. would be checking the mags after running it a bit to verify they are not weakening ..

And heres the next mystery .. when i did notice the weakened array i was getting ready to test AQ's isoferrite mag switch and one of the things i did to get ready to do that was make my big magnet wand.

Before i modified the array to start doing the tests .. i tried degaussing the array by using my wand in very close proximity. .i spun the wheel a few times and passed my wand close to the rotor and the array as it was spinning ..   

After i then tried getting the rotor to make the climb again and you guessed it ..
Now it worked again just like before ! ! 

i didn't say anything before as i didn't want to distract AQ from his task or come off as just injecting more negativity ..
But it WAS VERY strange ..

a mystery to me for sure !!! 

Hi queue
The information you give is great and I can beleave what you say about magnetic power loss, was it leaking into your iso's?
I heard of a experiment some prof at some uni did that used iron rods and neo magnets to sepurate H from O, he said he gets the H gas out of water with just permanent magnets but the strange thing was after doing so his neo magnets lost power.
Take Care queue
Graham

bullsnbears1

Thanks everyone for the input... I've got plenty to ponder now.

purepower

Quote from: Rusty_Springs on July 25, 2008, 04:15:39 PM
Hi queue
The information you give is great and I can beleave what you say about magnetic power loss, was it leaking into your iso's?
I heard of a experiment some prof at some uni did that used iron rods and neo magnets to sepurate H from O, he said he gets the H gas out of water with just permanent magnets but the strange thing was after doing so his neo magnets lost power.
Take Care queue
Graham

Hmm, makes me wonder if AQs mags will be completly useless when he gets back from vaca...

But someone was using mags to split water? Interesting, you have a link by chance? If not, no worries, I don't really see the usefulness of this (as it is obviously Underunity), I'm just curious...

Did your trigate mags seem to loose their strength over time?

-PurePower

bullsnbears1

Quote from: queue on July 25, 2008, 02:20:30 PM

Although i have and run a few different websites and servers .. i don't have one for any of the stuff you see from me here ..
but the two listed in my footer(below) are the only two dealing with OU/FE ..

C ya
Queue

P.s Thanks for the comments

Thanks for the info. I'll be expecting daily updates as you promised. :)

purepower

Quote from: spinner on July 25, 2008, 04:05:26 PM
@purepower

Lol, I was just about to start a post on hyperbolic/parabolic/elliptical paths stuff...
Thanks!

Not a problem! I know when I make mistakes, and I have no issues being corrected when wrong.

To build on this further, let's throw out a simple demo:

Imagine you are standing still, holding a halfpipe on it's side. A friend throws a ball at you, it enters one side and exits the other with the same velocity, right?

Now imagine you are walking toward your friend when he throws the ball at you. Now when the ball leaves, it has picked up a bit more speed by slowing you down. The effects on the ball are much more noticable due the differences in mass.

-PurePower