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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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yoyo

So the magnet gets 'x' stronger but it takes 'y' to activate it.

Is x>y ?  By how much?

u r asking 4 answers to science question no 1 wants science they want archer religion

yoyo

@Archer

Don't even respond to that.. Just ignore and keep on moving forward.

why? u don't want 2 know how or if its real? why would he not spend 1 week showing what he says is real that no 1 has ever seen instead of months on something not yet?

therealrasta

Quote from: yoyo on July 30, 2008, 03:21:06 PM
@Archer

Don't even respond to that.. Just ignore and keep on moving forward.

why? u don't want 2 know how or if its real? why would he not spend 1 week showing what he says is real that no 1 has ever seen instead of months on something not yet?

You asked like 50 questions.. Would take hours to answer.. Obviously he is working on  different project and would be better spending the time working on that then answering your drivel. Pleas use the quote button.

kude

Quote from: madsen on July 30, 2008, 03:08:02 PM
I checked the physicist's quote again, and and am not quite clear on what he is saying in the part mentioning "losses"---originally I thought he was talking about the inevitable nonconservative forces at play such as friction. 

In any case, if  all forces in a system are conservative, then there should be no losses whatsoever, by definition.  So I can't imagine a physicist saying that there are "losses in using conservative forces".

And again, the point of the wikipedia article, as I understand it, is that whether you want to call magnetic force conservative or not is a matter of definition and that there are good arguments on both sides.  The article isn't saying, AFAIK, that magnetic force is sometimes conservative and sometimes not.  Please correct me if I'm wrong, though.



What I took from the wikipedia article on conservative force was that magnetism somtimes meets the conditions for being a conservative force and sometimes not all the conditions are met. That's how I read it, maybe you view it differently. Maybe nature left a little loophole here or maybe not. I would have to find more reading on the times magnetism is not a conservative force sometimes.

shakman

Quote from: gwhy! on July 30, 2008, 02:16:01 PM
I would like to know and I intend to find out soon for myself is once the ferrite is 'active' and the moving mag comes into closer proximity to the ferrite how much energy does it need to make it 'non-active'. This is a genuine question ( newbee you see, and trying to learn something NEW ).  I've seen the vids (demo's)  and this have not been addressed by anyone yet that I'm aware of 

That's the question on everyone's lips. I think this is the one thing we're all going to be working on now. I've got some neos now, and it looks like I might be able to use a fridge mag for testing, and I have a few tests I want to try to answer that. Maybe Archer will answer for us in a vid soon... we'll wait and see.

I wish my mates weren't all boofheads. My mags will be sitting there doing nothing til I get back from holidays. I'm heading off this Saturday morning for a buck's (stag's for my US pals) weekend then fly out to NZ for a week of snowboarding so I'll be off the air as of Friday and won't be able to do any tests or check anyone's progress. I look forward to seeing the latest developments when I get back. I can't say I plan to rush back though  ;)

shakman