Roll on the 20th June

[queue]

No public date. Plans were promised to the donators, but no word yet here as to that.

People who donated for the plans undoubtedly did so thinking the plans would be for a working wheel we would all witness in video. With no proof of concept .. ie:completed and working wheel, what good would any plans be ? ?
batteries not included .   

My own concerns revolve around the fact that something turning itself, by itself, for any length of time, even 10 minutes is considered a 'toy' at all, by Archer and others. Even if it does no work, that's of Moon Landing importance, just turning itself...

However as to that miracle, Archer said that a wheel turning itself for 10 minutes is a fan, go buy one (said that to Graham) so I wonder if those on this thread have the capacity to recognize Perpetual Motion at all.

i'm sure you misquoted him . . i don't remember he said that . . . it would've been way too funny to ever forget !

If so, the standard now must be 11 minutes to be worthy of fan-fare I guess , and then the narrator can say :

"That's one small step for (a) fan. One Giant Leap For Fan-Kind!"   

rc

Thanks for the laugh .. 
very originally funny ! 

[Artist_Guy]

People who donated for the plans undoubtedly did so thinking the plans would be for a working wheel we would all witness in video. With no proof of concept .. ie:completed and working wheel, what good would any plans be ? ?
batteries not included .   


i'm sure you misquoted him . . i don't remember he said that . . . it would've been way too funny to ever forget !

Here's the original...

"turns continuously for ten minutes, they are called fans, go out and buy one."

In http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4540.msg111187.html#msg111187

The fan comment was in response to Graham's request (noted below) that any final video show any working wheel going for 10 minutes, which I think is entirely reasonable for anyone's hardware and claims.

"Archer prove me wrong show a working wheel and I don't mean something that turns a 1/4 of a turn something that turns continuously for at least 10 mins minimum."

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4540.msg111186.html#msg111186

Archer's retort was meant to be funny I guess, but I'd rather have seen something like "10 minutes? I'll show you 30!"

Thanks for the laugh .. 
very originally funny ! 

Thanks.  I've been sitting on that one for a while. It's wholesome natural goodness.     

Beats the rants I want to post at times.

(I'm as frustrated as anybody else who has followed this thread for a few months now.)

rc

[tekylife]

This is getting ridiculous.
Instead of just finishing the wheel and delivering on what he promised to his contributors ( plans ? ), Archer is writing a biography : "Designs". All text, not a single drawing, not that we didn't complain about that kind of delivery earlier in the thread. Nearly 17 Chapters and 10k words .... nice , but also a time waster.
So what's a cheerleader to do ? no substance is provided to squash the naysayers arguments. 3 month after the original claim, nothing tangible. Claims , just claims. Oh and a fight to be celebrated as a Winner before winning.
To help him concentrate on the original goal, the worst opponents changed the tone: "if you have plans, we'll build it for you" , "if it works as claimed by September, you get USD XXXX".
I guess this PM Wheel is the only puzzle he can't solve. He realized that and promised refunds to the contributors. He's not evil.
Picture it like that : He went on and told everybody he would get Excalibur out of the rock before the end of the day but the next day, the damned thing is still stuck there. So people goes on to think he's simply not the one who will be able do it.
We'll know within a month. Is it all just for Show ?

[The Eskimo Quinn]

History lesson from one of the best Arthurian reseacher in the world ME !

Excalibur was given to arthur by the lady of the lake, likely Brigit, former irish goddess hunted by the catholics as she was a real person. Her history and dress and all her abilities match that of brigit who showed up in Wales as the time line of her in Ireland ended. She was likely one of the true real person of mythology as she never had any magical powers, and it was her leaving food at the houses of poor people at night that gave her fame. This food was also no magic, there were simply offereings by some given to others. Often confused with brigid of a similar name and held up by the cathloics as a saint to confuse and remove the story of a pagen goddess.

The Sword in the stone and the  ardagh chalice once thought to be the grail were also reported as made by wheylan the blacksmith, as a goddes given votive offerings and location was in the same area as wheylen, she would have had access to all the materials required for such things. It would also account that merlin who was linked to both of them was reported to have a caudlred of such wealth that was sealed in the ledgedary crystal cave.

the first sword was never Excalibur in any story or ledgend.

the sword in the stone, likely was less true than excalibur, it was to my belief they play on words, stone was Anvil, he "took the sword from the anvil", was likely an exageration or miscomunication of he took "the sword from the Angles", whom he defeated.

I hold the sword of god in my hands as we speak, I have no need to remove it from any rock.

Please refrain from quoting history that some of us have researched for many years.

[pillager]

I'm back....under Dr.'s orders for  invective @ least every 12 hours ..........

Lessee (Let's see) here:

@ pil-lager

I thought you'd had enough and were leaving?
You're as good to your word as Archer is then?

Good to know you play the double standards game so well.

Thanks for caring, but the promises made by myself and archer are rather different -- wouldn't you say? 
Mine --- Who cares
Archer --- change the world as we know it

When someone promises overunity, and then talks shit to any naysayers, and wants your money --- my spidey senses kick in.