Roll on the 20th June

[The Eskimo Quinn]

AS the webiste seems to be fading in and out at the moment, the patenet free designs loaded to date are also avalable here.

http://groups.google.com/group/magdrive/browse_thread/thread/9949d9cdeadabae1

The machine will be the last of these designs with 2 last videos prior to release.

The first of these was undoing some of the changes i had made to the wheel, this was to avoid skipping an understanding of the true nature of the wall and th sinus.

As i now know the machine inide and out and what makes it work, i am now able to make it jump through hoops to show anything.

This first video being uploaded tonight was made to show what was discovered about the snius, but also to once and for all destroy the wall myth, becuase this one will destory you understanding of it. acceleration into the gate and smooth as silk out, you will see the same speed all round action has been removed to show that it can be made run fast and slow and weights can be used to play with speed and fall.

This is for teaching purposes for those building, not a demonstration of anything for anyone else. This ids to show that i can control the wall and wheel even without the gate key, and that some great power required is a myth, oh and no hands.

tonight around 830pm aus time

[yoyo]

As i now know the machine inide and out and what makes it work, i am now able to make it jump through hoops to show anything.

jump through the hoops and show: perpetual motion
or did u mean anything BUT that?
or is that in june 20 of 2050?

[exxcomm0n]

@ ronin

It's long winded, but maybe worth it.

Hey Ex.. I'll answer this now for you, though you have not asked it of me (yet?, though someone did before)

Being proactive in life is almost always good.

q) What have I contributed
a) Nothing. I am not an inventor. I'm more important, or at least represent something more important.. I'm the end user. Your doing this for "me"

          Note: to clarify, when I say "me" I mean EVERYONE who can benefit from this.

No, I'm doing this for me.

You might be waiting for the Walmart version, but it'll be a long time coming.

An idea like this can cost industry billions, so I don't see it lining the shelves or having info-mercial status anytime soon, leaving it in the hands of a DIY guy.

I can see the charitable angle for this idea, sure.......but where's that charity going to come from?
If you can't afford to house yourself, how can the ideas/plans for making something like this possibly benefit you if you can't afford the materials to make it?

Whether this is mag based, or mag assisted, it's not going to be cheap since mags of an appreciable size cost some change.

It would probably be up to an entrepreneurial DIY guy that made good building these things and selling them (VERY few could make multiple copies to give away) for cost to get them introduced that would have the money AND the lack of external influence to make and donate such devices, eh?

He's gonna have difficulties to.

Financing will be hard, so will sales. Magnet prices will get pretty interesting in an industry that presently serves a niche market when demand starts picking up.

In fact, it would behoove an entrepreneur to buy a mag company, retool it for wheel production and buy a mining and refining outfit to make sure he had raw resources for neodymium or large amounts of ferrite ore in processed form.

When the influence of a primary customer leans on a supplier, the supplier usually picks the primary's wishes over that of the individual or small business man and the only way to keep that type of thing from happening is very broad mass appeal of the concept AND uninfluenced reporting of events.

Otherwise any venture into production of any scale would result in computer failures loosing orders, misrouted deliveries, multitudes of different types of harassment for owner, employees, and customers  of the product, possible destruction of facilities, poor representation in gov't, slander in the press, etc.

These have been industrial espionage tactics that have historically worked.

This is the problem for any machine that would make an individual self-reliant in regards to power/fuel usage.

We're talking trillions a year conservatively, and I think they'll fight pretty hard to keep it that way..

So I'm doing it for me, and that charitable small businessman so when a potential customer asks for proof and testimony, there is at least one person to give it.

Just having plans for a working wheel are not enough for charity.

@all.
How about a new rule around here.
-don't attack people for not understanding..
Often when people don't understand it's a failure on the part of the teacher, not the student. The reason we are "students" is because we don't know this in the first place...

So am I (student), or else I'd be pretty comfy in the fact that this worked and would not be building toy representations for proof of concept.

This is how I learn, and hopefully I'll stumble across something doing that that will help an idea blossom into a grass roots phenomenon the world over.

How else do you think you learn to make something?
If you can't build a sawhorse, I doubt that any amount of instructions are going to be able to help you this early in the game.
Sawhorse been around a long time, but only in the last 50 years or so have tooling and processed materials been around to make the scissor/leg assembly that means you can build a sawhorse if you can cut a 2X4 to a reasonable length to bridge the 2 of them.
Figure the same lag for the home brew kit for the wheel.

I won't attack you, or anyone, until you/they attack me, or someone else.
Then why should I have to adhere to rules set by them that see themselves above the ones they set?

Sounds like gov't to me.

Thing is, you might not be handy, but I bet you know someone who is.

Wouldn't it be nice to show them why they should be interested in building this for you?

How you gonna do that without a working demo or knowing where one is that you can show them a video of (although many will not accept the video as any proof of anything, only that it deserves looking into further in person)?

[Xaverius]

This is not a political commentary website for Americans. This is a global website that is read by people from around the world that have no interest in US politics.

Most American politicians are full of bullshit.  Any Free Energy device would destroy them.  That's an incentive to pursue OU!

[Xaverius]

What is high speed voltage considering electricity moves at near light speed?

And BTW God, how's Elvis?

LOL!!......good points!