Roll on the 20th June

[yoyo]

pp an electromagnet uses the windings and electricity to turn the core into a magnet
while u COULD make one like archer says it is not the norm and would require very large amounts of electricity to be of any value
to think he could generate the power required by a spinning toy is fiction

excomm u r right an array would be much better setup
and u could pulse each one along the way meaning less electricity
but archer says 1 eletromagnet
as he descirbes it is fiction
but oh yea he destrotyed it rather than save the world
and get the nobel prize
and make millions
and.......... 
so we can only use his words and word
take it all together equals fiction fiction and more fiction

[purepower]

pp an electromagnet uses the windings and electricity to turn the core into a magnet
while u COULD make one like archer says it is not the norm and would require very large amounts of electricity to be of any value
to think he could generate the power required by a spinning toy is fiction

excomm u r right an array would be much better setup
and u could pulse each one along the way meaning less electricity
but archer says 1 eletromagnet
as he descirbes it is fiction
but oh yea he destrotyed it rather than save the world
and get the nobel prize
and make millions
and.......... 
so we can only use his words and word
take it all together equals fiction fiction and more fiction

Well, I can't really disagree with your conclusion.

But when you say it requires more energy, that's a matter of viewpoint. To generate the same flux density would require more energy as it is a much broader area. But to generate the same total flux would require the same energy, but the magnetic flux at any given point would be less and therefor less useful, which I think is what you were getting at.

Now I see your point, there was just a little misconunication (language barrier pehaps?)

-PurePower

[yoyo]

pp yes thank u for saying my thoughts more clearly
and while using 1 small electromagnet would not be possible because u cant generate enough electricity by the toy spinning
using a wide one would be even more impossible
say u need to move 2 lbs
it takes 1 watt to do it with small normal wind electromagnet
it takes 10 watts to do it with abnormal wide wind electromanget
the array like exxcom was saying would be better idea
but still wouldnt work because too much compared to electricity generated

[g4macdad]

I don't know where you get this from or where you are going with it.

An electromagnet can be made around any piece of metal in any orientation. The only thing that effects the orientation of the poles is the way the coils are wound, not the metal inside...

I know youre trying to help, but please leave the hard questions and criticisms/critiques of AQs work to the big boys...

@g4md

You ask what others have contributed, may I ask what you have contributed?

All I have seen you do is pick fights in AQs honor. You haven't even really defended his work or tried to show us our errors in thinking.

All you do is sit and wait for a naysayer to come along and then attack them for completly unrelated and irrelevant issues. You attack the person, not the idea. You are a bully, not a debater.

Learn the difference and grow up. I hope for your kids sake you act more mature at home and this thread is just a release for your aggression you can not release in the real world.

Please, just take my advice and leave it at that. Attacking me would only prove my point and make you look foolish. The best thing to do would be to bite your tongue until you have a decent thought or something to contribute of value.


-PurePower

blah blah blah..... pointless as usual.

[The Eskimo Quinn]

As to the electromagnet the windings (i thought this would be obvious) were around the centre of the i section. the letter i on the system does not show up as a normal capital i. It was shaped like and i beam. so the poles were the flate surfaces, the slight bend does nothing more than concentrate the filed into the centre more.

AS to pure power and plans, fan 18 volt scooter motor 45cm arms rods 15 cm less mags from chess pices and lead weights, i have already told you all the components, there were 3 arms accross each other. without having weight the lead weights etc, there is not a lot more i can tell you. I did not build the original with thoughts of replication, i was testing a theory that just happend to work.

1)every single person on this site has seen my large rod wheel shoot the rods accross, as with dusty's wheel redrider22 clanzer etc, and your "only" issue was always the wall becuase we saw on "know" the mechanics worked.

2)I have shown you the math for energy and lift in kilowatts, the electricinas here will confirm it is correct, and that all energy devices performing the same work use the same amount of power (less friction blah blah blah) but the same exact amount. so too electromagnets and permanent magnets use the same amout of power. so if the permanent mags will do it, then so too the elctromags will do it.

3)leaving only one question, is the power to the electro mag from the motor/gen more or less than the electro need to fire the rods? This is the only question for you have seen and built all the rest.

now equal and opposite reactions (i am now running you through how i worked out the original theory)
the mag repells providing a set amount of lift for the rod. this lift is only equal to the fall if the rod slides back down the tube it was lfted, lift and fall is equal, say 2 cm with a 1 kg weight (a lift you have seen me demonstrate) so the math for that is set, "unless" the weigh falls a furthe distance, which when forced to the other side of a wheel is 20 times that at least on the wheel you saw myself and others build. So now lift is no longer equal to fall. Seperation of mechanics.

No you may think hey wait a minute if i fire a canon ball on the same angle there is no extra gain, in fact if i do this with other mechanics this is not true.

and do you know what? you would be correct, and that is why to this day no newtonian could work it out, because they missed one simple detail.

half the energy of the seperation repulsion distance comes from the magnets on the rods. so haldf of the climb comes from the rod itself. the easiest way to understand this comes from lift. electromagnet power to lift one kilo rod with metal tip is more than electrmagnet to lift 1 kilo rod with attracting magnets on the end, same as static magnets. Every single human on the planet can test that with normal mags and rods with metal verses mags on the ends. so lift by perms or elctros "is" equal to fall with no extra power ecept when the rods have their own power, so extra power is equal to each rod, x however many times their power.

Now do you see what the mighty quinn saw that mankind missed for so long.?

have a nice day