Roll on the 20th June

[The Eskimo Quinn]

for the newbies, if each end of the three rods fires at 7 oclock on the rods that would be six times it would need to fire for a full circle.

if the energy from the fall of each firing is equal to the lift provided which it is, that would be unity less friction and is less than a circle.

but when as previously noted, the rods having their own magnets provide 50 percent of the power then 50 percent of the power is overunity, less friction is still overunity. how do we know?

easy if the system was only turning half a circle due to friction then double would only be a circle, yet all have seen my wheel and thousand of others that turn even without magnets "at least 80 percent" so even if you are dropping 20 percent to friction, you are still up by 30 percent. Electricity has nothing to do with basic physics, Some people just cannot do math,

let us not forget part of the fall is momentum and part of the price paid for in the lift, no wheel in the world can have a weight placed at or moved to 11 oclock and only roll around to 7 oclock, so once any wheel is turned one full circle manually it is always ahead by power and movement so cannot stop, and that my friends "is" newtonian physics and math

[Xaverius]

[quote author=Rusty_Springs link=topic=4540.msg118850#msg118850 date=1217892001
How do you get all the power used in firing the electromagnet back on every turn? I would think someone that knows about electricity would say theres no way you can do it.
Take Care All
Graham
[/quote]
Actually, it is quite simple to design a highly efficient electromagnet that uses very little power, so that only a portion of the power generated by the gravtiational force is used to energize it, with power left over for a load.

[Rusty_Springs]

[quote author=Rusty_Springs link=topic=4540.msg118850#msg118850 date=1217892001
How do you get all the power used in firing the electromagnet back on every turn? I would think someone that knows about electricity would say theres no way you can do it.
Take Care All
Graham

Actually, it is quite simple to design a highly efficient electromagnet that uses very little power, so that only a portion of the power generated by the gravtiational force is used to energize it, with power left over for a load.

Thats great because I have shown a electromagnetic motor that pulses only once not 6 times so show me the way you get the power back from just one pulse so I can call mine OU

[exxcomm0n]

"......and the (s)hits just keep coming......."

Ya know, there's nothing like getting done with some magnet foolin', studying esoteric and forgotten inventors, checking out videos and patents on the web, and coming here to find the warm glow of maligning text still lingering with the comforting and welcome tone of a pimp saying "Where's my money, bitch?!?!?!".

This is what discovery is all about.

Let's see.........where to start?

@ all

What I forgot to point out was a very central point to the original mythical wheel and that the electromag didn't have to do much duty since it's job was to get the rod into the 1 to 3 upper attract field to be kept there during rotation until array end.
Seems like the electromag Archer describes could still possibly work.

I fo'got (forgot).

In other news......

From my last video it would seem that magnetic field lines that are established have an affinity towards staying established.
Could this be why gates work?
The field lines of the entire flux field are looking for that preferred polarity line that just happens to at the other end?
All kinds of funkiness goin on and Ima (I'm) still playing with it to refine my understanding of Q-tips.

@ yo-yo

You never know how much electricity the pulse will take until you build it.
Until you do that (well, R&D actually) you have no idea what size electromag using what amount of electricity for what time period.
How can you be so sure it'll take more electricity than is generated?
That's kind of a sticky point too as there are no proofs that a spinning wheel CAN support load, but it seems possible if it will turn.
Let's work on that part 1st, K?


@ The Eskimo w/ da mostest

Psychologists have long held the belief that dreaming is necessary and cannot be avoided.

Listening to and following your dreams is a completely other matter entirely.



@ Rast

Nice build so far dude!

I have to ask, did the shaft come from a childs twirly baton?

If so, ACES on the ingenuity and pack up a flower filled dose of inspiration this weekend!



@ X000

Nice vids man.

I'm looking forward to going head to head (competing) with ya on the video representation of a working wheel.
Gots my tunage picked out and everything, but I bet yours will be better from both of our previous examples.

Me?
I'm still playing around, being a menace to civilized society.

[therealrasta]

@ Ex

That shaft is a 3/8 alunimun rod that was 36".. I cut a 16" piece off of it and used that portion for the shaft.. The 2 x pillow clamps have RC bearing in them from a high speed toy car.. If I spin the wheel on it with a good spin. It will spin for a few minutes before stopping without any mags.  Will keep you posted.. I might end up getting a video recorder.

Edit 1 -- No one commented on that funny looking cigarette.

Edit 2 -- Oh yeah, plastic work is a bitch.. I did everything you see there with a drill and sand paper by hand.