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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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X00013

@rasta, get the cam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

maw2432

I did a linear track (SMUT) with just a bunch of steel nails as track and used a roller with magnets (steel ball on each end of several magnets) like Archer showed.   The roller moved just fine along the track from nail to nail - just like the vids I have seen with magnet tracks and then a wall.

Try it.  Maybe it is nothing,  but it shows similar behavior as those tracks with magnets..  So I decided to try the same thing on a wheel... and got similar results...maybe there is no need for all those magnets for the track.... just iso or steal nails or something.
I just need to get past the darn wall.   I will try to send/show Pics tomorrow..

Bill

therealrasta

Quote from: maw2432 on August 06, 2008, 11:22:05 PM
I did a linear track (SMUT) with just a bunch of steel nails as track and used a roller with magnets (steel ball on each end of several magnets) like Archer showed.   The roller moved just fine along the track from nail to nail - just like the vids I have seen with magnet tracks and then a wall.

Try it.  Maybe it is nothing,  but it shows similar behavior as those tracks with magnets..  So I decided to try the same thing on a wheel... and got similar results...maybe there is no need for all those magnets for the track.... just iso or steal nails or something.
I just need to get past the darn wall.   I will try to send/show Pics tomorrow..

Bill

Wall is easy to get by.. Just taper the end with a 45 degree angle.. But you have to make sure the 45 ends at the point where gravity pulls it past the wall. But the right configuration of mags on the up swing is necessary so the wheel does not get slowed on stopped by the extra tight configuration on the upside of the rotation.. Just what I have noticed so far.. I will test more soon.. But chillin with my chick in my office watchin tv.

exxcomm0n

Quote from: maw2432 on August 06, 2008, 10:21:46 PM
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Exxcomm-- I like your idea....   
Question... Would a steel nail have the same or near same effect as iso?   The reason I ask is my experimental wheel is using only magnets on the wheel and steel nails on the track.   It works fine dropping from 1:00 and moves
around through the top (12:00 to about 1:00) but is still attracted back to the nails at the near the 12:00 top... or the wall affect.   It is a way of doing all this with out a lot of magnets - but seems so far to get some interesting results.  I have some photos but no vids.  sorry.  Let  me know if any interest in the photos.  The cool thing is it would be easy and not expensive to replicate. 
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@ maw

I need a little more info, like where is the track populated with nails?
Is it continuous?
Are we talking a rod or a roller here?

Them's gonna have a significant effect on my answer (if i can pummel my 2 remaining brain cells for a little synaptic action goin on).

I'm not sure about irons effect in the wheel cause it homogenizes polarity.

I can't get 2 like pole together without real work.
But I can stick them both to iron and have them stay there much closer than I could hold them without them touching the iron.
It seems to be a magnetic catalyst of some type as it greatly decreases the polar repel effect unless the iron is thin and the like poles are diametrically opposed on either side.

Even then it's a lot less.

I don't know shite about magnetics, but I theorize and play.

As soon as this becomes a "job" I bet the weird ideas slow to a trickle. ;)

Oops!

Just saw your last post and I had an idea that if at the end of the iron track you had 2 mags mounted slant-wise with attracting polarity towards the entrance of the track and repelling polarity  just before the last nail.
Maybe attract slanted out just a bit and the coming in for repel (maybe use the the nail before the last nail  as a "short" 2/3 down the 2 exit mags so the repel effect isn't actuated until the roller is already into that last segment.

The fact that you're using metal BB ends for the roller will help a lot too as it'll make for more homogenization effect and the repel effect being muted a bit.


Oh...I fogot.

This is the idea I had for the switched roller/rod a while back (don't you people study history???)

:D

When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

exxcomm0n

@ maw

Here's a graphic of the idea I proposed in my last post.

It's just foolish wool gathering. ;)

EDIT

I got the idea from a linear acceleration track I found from a linked peswiki page that had the gauss guns and even sm0ky's Howard Johnson track (anyone remember sm0ky? I liked that dude, wonder where he went?) that has not wall IF you space the mag tracks for enough apart.

Check that article out if you can find it...ummmm.........here:

http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Special:Search?search=gauss&go=Go
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